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Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on January 26, 2013 at 5:27pm

Indy won me over even though I had every reason to hate him, Django never gave me any reason not to root for him, it didn't satisfy me to like him. 

Also I decided to explain what an opinion is because there are some people on this site who genuinely can't tell the difference between a fact and an opinion and kick up a fuss whenever I express an opinion and these same people like to tell me my opinions are wrong. Now I don't know you guys all that well and (no offense) I didn't know whether either of you were one of those stupid people. It was NEVER my intention to be patronizing to either of you in this conversation. 

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on January 26, 2013 at 3:39pm

OK, guys please allow me to explain. First and foremost what you're reading here are my opinions that are neither right nor wrong and I speak for no-one but myself. You guys have the right to your opinions and I have the right to mine and I'm happy to hear what you have to say. 

A year before we saw this film we found out that Waltz was playing the friend of the hero, the hero was a freed slave and the villains were the slavers and the audience with their knowledge of history went in already hating the bad guys and rooting for the good guys. So my point is Tarantino is using the audience's existing knowledge of slavery in America the same as Spielberg used the audiences existing knowledge of the Nazis to automatically get us to hate the bad guys in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

The difference is that Indiana Jones is more like a person, he has both negative and positive qualities, we learn to like him because his character is developed and he wins us over. We want Django to succeed for no other reason than he was a former slave and we feel like he's been wronged. So we like the heroes and hate the villains of Django Unchained for no other reason than the circumstances of the story. 

It feels like the writer took a shortcut in a way, I hope you guys understand where I'm coming from. 

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on January 26, 2013 at 12:00pm

A couple of thoughts on this film, it's not bad, but it shows us racist slave owners for no other reason than for the audience to hate them and shows us a former slave freedom fighter out for vengeance simply for the audience to root for him, it's also tackling the difficult subject of slavery but in this day and age we really don't need to! Back in 2000 X-Men showed us a story about a minority being treated with prejudice not two hundred years ago but in modern times; Xavier's guys were clearly the heroes but we totally saw where Magneto was coming from, so showed us how a difficult situation is shades of grey not black and white (no pun intended)! Django basically says, black = good, white = bad, hero kills bad guys and rescues girl, mentor dies noble death, don't worry about all the other slaves because the Civil War is less than two years away. A lackluster piece of work that earned the director a token Oscar nomination because that's how the world works! 

Comment by Ha-Ra on January 26, 2013 at 8:52am

I agree with you! :D

Comment by Fatality on January 26, 2013 at 8:41am

OMG you're so cool!!