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WOW, a W-O-W movie. Give me a freakin break
OK Children, settle down. Let Cranky Old Dude tell you how this one will go down. Hollywood will go down on this idea like a cheap hooker on Hollywood ave. Here is why:
For the record, I know a few things about this game. I have 2 sons, 32 and 20 who love the game. They are on (my) computer 24/7 if given a chance. They have multiple avatars, go on raids, belong to guilds argue and trade goods with others using VOIP. In short, they don't have much of a life. But hey, they don't drink, do drugs or otherwise engage in criminal activity. This is a safe addiction and they leave me the F*** alone.
Yeah, WOW has millions of people sign up. yeah not all of them play. Who cares. Look a lot of kids get their first WOW demo card, get on and get hooked. It is like crack. People stay up all night on this shit. But the catch is the monthly payments. Most kids don't have a credit card so it is on Mommie or daddies card right? grades go down, kid cops an attitude and boom. Parents pull the plug.GAMEOUS INTERUPTUS! Account is closed. Some kids try working. Takes a lot of lawns to be able to afford the monthly rate. 30 bucks if you buy the 2 month card right? The trouble with working be it burgers or mowing lawns, Work gets in the way of game play.
The point it, there are millions into in. Full time, part time, even those who get cut off. The game is become part of our culture now. It is parodied in Sit-Coms (South park), Commericals (Toyota Trucks and my Favorite, the One with Ozzie "The F'n Prince of Darkness"). Hit movies (See what the geek Columbus was playing in Zombie Land? Not resident Evil!). The game was popular before MMOs and has gotten bigger and badder.
Nope, True Belivers, Hollywood gets a case of Movie makin Blue Balls over something like this. Built in base audience, strong name recognition, chance to show off special effects muscles and built in marketing with a strong base already. it does not get any better than that. Toss in a name director with a love for walking on the dark side and a known track record with CGI movies. Shit. This has mega hit written all over it. It could be a real stinker and still clean up $$$. (Think Transformers 2) Remember all of those kids out there that don't get to play, they will want their crack fix from the flick.
The way to do the flick would be with actors in Motion Capture / CGI (Think Bewoulf). The old "kid gets sucked into the game" story line? Hopefully not a chance in hell. What they could/should do is work with Blizzard and tie the movie to a game expansion. Now that would be kick ass. The games never really had much of a solid story line. Just an outline more than anything else. That will give Sam R a chance to make the movie breath a bit. Come on, somebody out there name one charater from the game who needs to be in the movie. AND NOT YOUR OWN DAMN AVATAR! I would like a dark anti-hero so lets go for "The Litch King" what the hell. He is as good as anything else. One thing I hope they keep in the movie: Sight Gags. There are always silly, goofy (and sometimes a little blue) gags and jokes around the corner, a drunk in a tavern, and angry chicken that kicks butt, a twisted holiday theme. That is something that makes the game so endering and popular.
One wish: When the Blue Ray comes out. The movie will have the option to make choices along the way and alter the storyline. Now that would be fun and in keeping with the spirit of the game.
So hang in there. it will be a couple of years at least before they get this thing done, more than enough time for BLIZZARD to come up with an Expansion to match.
Oh yes, one more thing. I would lay $$$ that it will be done in 3D. James Cameron AVATAR quality 3D. For the movies and for the games and for the home video
For the record, I know a few things about this game. I have 2 sons, 32 and 20 who love the game. They are on (my) computer 24/7 if given a chance. They have multiple avatars, go on raids, belong to guilds argue and trade goods with others using VOIP. In short, they don't have much of a life. But hey, they don't drink, do drugs or otherwise engage in criminal activity. This is a safe addiction and they leave me the F*** alone.
Yeah, WOW has millions of people sign up. yeah not all of them play. Who cares. Look a lot of kids get their first WOW demo card, get on and get hooked. It is like crack. People stay up all night on this shit. But the catch is the monthly payments. Most kids don't have a credit card so it is on Mommie or daddies card right? grades go down, kid cops an attitude and boom. Parents pull the plug.GAMEOUS INTERUPTUS! Account is closed. Some kids try working. Takes a lot of lawns to be able to afford the monthly rate. 30 bucks if you buy the 2 month card right? The trouble with working be it burgers or mowing lawns, Work gets in the way of game play.
The point it, there are millions into in. Full time, part time, even those who get cut off. The game is become part of our culture now. It is parodied in Sit-Coms (South park), Commericals (Toyota Trucks and my Favorite, the One with Ozzie "The F'n Prince of Darkness"). Hit movies (See what the geek Columbus was playing in Zombie Land? Not resident Evil!). The game was popular before MMOs and has gotten bigger and badder.
Nope, True Belivers, Hollywood gets a case of Movie makin Blue Balls over something like this. Built in base audience, strong name recognition, chance to show off special effects muscles and built in marketing with a strong base already. it does not get any better than that. Toss in a name director with a love for walking on the dark side and a known track record with CGI movies. Shit. This has mega hit written all over it. It could be a real stinker and still clean up $$$. (Think Transformers 2) Remember all of those kids out there that don't get to play, they will want their crack fix from the flick.
The way to do the flick would be with actors in Motion Capture / CGI (Think Bewoulf). The old "kid gets sucked into the game" story line? Hopefully not a chance in hell. What they could/should do is work with Blizzard and tie the movie to a game expansion. Now that would be kick ass. The games never really had much of a solid story line. Just an outline more than anything else. That will give Sam R a chance to make the movie breath a bit. Come on, somebody out there name one charater from the game who needs to be in the movie. AND NOT YOUR OWN DAMN AVATAR! I would like a dark anti-hero so lets go for "The Litch King" what the hell. He is as good as anything else. One thing I hope they keep in the movie: Sight Gags. There are always silly, goofy (and sometimes a little blue) gags and jokes around the corner, a drunk in a tavern, and angry chicken that kicks butt, a twisted holiday theme. That is something that makes the game so endering and popular.
One wish: When the Blue Ray comes out. The movie will have the option to make choices along the way and alter the storyline. Now that would be fun and in keeping with the spirit of the game.
So hang in there. it will be a couple of years at least before they get this thing done, more than enough time for BLIZZARD to come up with an Expansion to match.
Oh yes, one more thing. I would lay $$$ that it will be done in 3D. James Cameron AVATAR quality 3D. For the movies and for the games and for the home video
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Comment by jack burton on December 21, 2009 at 2:38pm
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Hahaaa... Your sons gotta be hooked on this shit! I know your getting into games, or back into, But i just can't see you playing an MMO! You have that MMO lingo down pat though... lol You must help pay those fees.
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Comment by Cranky Old Dude on October 19, 2009 at 10:56am -
Seth, Seth, Seth. A couple of points. I am a big Sam Raimi Fan. I hope he stays attached to this project. I recognize that most game based movies have been bombs Resident Evil is the exception as it has spawned 2 sequals and a 4th R.E. is in the works.
The rest of the article and comments brought to the table are pure speculation, dreams hopes, ideas and fears about what could happen over the next couple of years as this movie takes shape.
As for 3D. I agree there has been hits and misses using the technology, but it is evolving and that process is kinda fun watching it take shape. There are 3 "Biggies" coming to the table 2 by Disney and Cameron's AVATAR.
I have seen the trailers as well as Cameron's 20 minute Teaser in 3D IMAX. I was seriously impressed. A Christmas Carol by Disney is out next month. Robert Zemicks used the same technology as with his last coule of films and appears to have refined it. (I am not happy that the movie is only 1 hour and 15 minutes however- I am sure they will still charge the same price). And Alice due out in March looks trippy. As for AVATAR I was blown away.
So based on current trends and our collective experince as to what works and doesn't work, we get the blog I wrote and the comments it drove..
So calm down and enjoy the ride. 3D is here to stay. The new generation of flat screens is due out this winter and they will have the 3D power and computer chips needed to bring this home with out those stupid colored lenses now on the market.
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Comment by Seth on October 19, 2009 at 1:33am -
Gotta say. There is a lot of guess work in this "article".
First off, I'm not sure why people are ripping on Sam Rami. Blizzard could have done worse. In fact, Uve Boll went to Blizzard with a script, but was promptly told to leave. They told him flat out that they had higher standards.
Secondly, if the movie was fully 3D, I probably would be a little more cautious. I haven't seen one "Serious" movie that I enjoyed that was done in 3D. What, Final Fantasy? Beowulf? Come on...
I'd really like to see the author of this "Article" do some research before he just starts spouting crap.
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Comment by Gift of the Magi on October 16, 2009 at 1:45pm -
Bob, I am waiting for the script...to see who signs up...basic plot lines, etc. What my OPINION is at this point is based on previous video game films and the source material...and that does not seem good. The little cinematic scenes look awesome on a computer...not so much put together with plots and storylines and character development. Awesome visuals are not enough anymore for me. Otherwise I would be singing Micheal Bay's praises (ok, no I would not but you get the idea).
So since we decided to discuss this film so early on, sure I'll put out my ideas on it. Raimi does have the chops to make this decent...but will he? I think this has FAR more to do what the writers come up with and what the studio wants to see (you might be surprized how much a studio can control and alter in a film without the consent of the writers OR director).
And finally, for the gnome part...'sigh' Blizzard needed a fourth race and the gnomes were the only ones with any ties to the Alliance in the previous games. So they gave you little D&D-style Tinker Gnomes (From Dragonlance if the reference lost you) to fill in the hole. With a few years on the game they can add new made-up races and the ones they missed but I guess Blizzard felt there was a hobbit-sized hole in the game.
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Comment by Cranky Old Dude on October 16, 2009 at 8:20am
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The movie could work, depending on how it is filmed. I still vote Motion Capture. But the idea that most intrigues me is the multiple story lines aspect. Suppose he tells the story from different groups point of view, ties it into a mass raid at the end??? Enter twined stories like the game?
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Comment by bob zorb on October 16, 2009 at 7:52am
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Gift of the Magi-
Those Gnomes never appeared as units in any of the games. Suddenly Blizzard turned them into warriors, mages, warlocks and rogues.
2-3 minutes in every mission including cinematics- there are like 8 missions in each campaign, 4 campaigns in Reign of Chaos, 2 more in The frozen Throne.
That's about 2 hours of material...
Expected? I found LotR much more obvious to figure out, yet I loved every minute of it.
Sam Raimi is involved, so I count on him to get the best out of his actors (excluding Spiderman 3).
They CAN'T make a movie about WoW, because 99% of it is based on Warcraft 3+Frozen Throne, and WoW itself has relatively little story to tell.
The fact it's called World of Warcraft doesn't mean it's about the MMO, could be just a marketing trick.
Wait for the script and some real info.
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Comment by Gift of the Magi on October 16, 2009 at 6:47am
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Azteca makes a good point. The nature of a MMO prevents a single vision for a storyline..which means the writers will have to make something out of whole cloth (Resident Evil-ish). Vault319, I agree that Thrall is by far the most interesting character in WoW...he was suppose to have his own game and at least got a few books on him. IF, and this is a big if, the movie is about him and say...that female mage (I forget her name)...you have your lead characters and ones you can work with. But for one film I don't see how this will defer from the standard fantasy film line.
You have too many races, too many paper-thin subplots, too big an area to cover and beyond the two I just mentioned very little character development (Arthas is so basic, he's a watered down Vader in ice. Cool for a game, not so much for a film)
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Comment by Guy Behind The Guy on October 15, 2009 at 10:00pm
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So.Might this be an actual videogame adpat that will be good and make money? Don't know anything about WOW. Never played it, and have no intrest in seeing it. But as a film fan. I like the Bewoulf idea.
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Comment by Vault319 on October 15, 2009 at 8:13pm -
Being an active and happy WoW player, the bias against players of the game on this and many other sites is BS. YES losers play WoW, but many other people do as well. Blizz's demographic is wider them many people think it is. BTW it's Orc and Lich, no K or T. Yes Blizzard is planning to make a WoW movie, and unlike LoTR or Eragon or any other fantasy series the Alliance is not "Good" and the Horde is not "Evil". Actually if anything The Alliance, mainly the humans are bigots. The leader of the humans Varian Wrynn, is bigoted against all the Horde races. He thinks that the Orcs, Trolls , Tauren, Forsaken, and Blood Elfs are all scourges that need to be wiped off the face of Azeroth. That in itself is a drastic change from any other Fantasy universe.
I agree that the story should be told from the point of view of the Horde since they are actually the more popular faction. I mean Thrall the Shamanistic Horde leader is a badass warrior but he actually wants to avoid war with the Alliance. He is smart, and compassionate but fierce as well. IMHO he is the most well rounded character in all of WoW lore and he is and Orc.
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Comment by Lord of Hate on October 15, 2009 at 6:49pm -
Now that have been said, Bruce Campbell hopefully to play Leeroy Jenkins, or at least an undead forsaken (maybe simler to a deadite as a joke).
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