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Comment by Eric Turpel on December 11, 2012 at 5:01pm

I'm all for a sequel, as long as they got the same writers, producers, and Rich Moore returns as director and have most of the cast return.

Comment by Robert Wild on December 10, 2012 at 8:20pm

It's not necessary to include more characters in the sequel, but what's the PROBLEM with including more? It would simply be fun to be more characters appear (especially icons like Mario) AS LONG AS they focus more on the script than the cameos. And if their smart, new characters could be really fun and really memorable.

Comment by VinnyLT on December 10, 2012 at 4:40pm

great movie, but it should be left alone. Let it become a classic.

Comment by The Dubya on December 10, 2012 at 4:35pm

Which has been my question this entire time, why is everyone treating it as if it's NECESSARY for the potential sequel to include more characters and keep using it as a knock AGAINST this movie?

Comment by Robert Wild on December 10, 2012 at 4:25pm

@The Dubya

Wreck-it Ralph was GREAT, but that doesn't meen we don't want to see more characters. As long as the cameos aren't distracting, there is no reason to NOT introduce more, as long as they are clever.

Comment by The Dubya on December 10, 2012 at 4:25pm

ERMERGERD A POP SONG! ER NERS THE HERRERS!!!! Shut up, hipsters >_>

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I don't understand why you guys keep on separating the two halves of the movie when the fact of the matter is that the two halves COMPLIMENTED each other; you really can't have one without the other. Ralph's goal was to get a medal like Felix's by any means necessary, he went into Hero's Duty to get it because that ONE game was going to be the one that was going to give him the medal, he got it by basically cheating and fucking things up, sending him spiraling into Sugar Rush where he has to begrudgingly befriend Vanellope in order to get his medal back, but then ultimately realizes his thickheaded naivety is fucking everything up so he's gotta Fix-It (ironyyyyy!) and he and everyone else learn not to take each other for granted and that you're more than your perceived flaws and "programming". THAT'S how he came to deal with his place in the Nicelanders homeworld, by being a selfless REAL hero instead of a superficial "programmed" one. They go hand-in-hand, period. Maybe you could make the accusation for Hero's Duty, but he wasn't "bumbling" around in Sugar Rush, that's called going through a CHARACTER ARC.
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You're saying you don't want it to be like Toy Story, but....you want it to be Toy Story with this constant "Ralph getting back to the arcade yada yada" story you keep proposing.

I get WHY you're saying that, as it'd give the excuse to kinda explore other worlds (which is still an iffy decision, unless they feel like re-explaining how the arcade world and the home console world differ all over again), but that's still a mighty big stretch in itself (how could they POSSIBLY even meet anyways? I mean sure they have a limited knowledge of the outside world, but what would bring together the 'arcade' Ralph and the 'home console' Ralph'?), really doesn't fit what the character of Ralph's arc was/is about (he never wanted to be "special", he just wanted to be accepted), and again, instead of being a cookie cutter movie of whatever trope you're saying it is, wouldn't THAT be just as much of a "cookie cutter "of Homeward Bound or Bolt or any other "We Got Lost So We Gotta Find Our Way Back Home" storyline?(....what? You were expecting the triforce? Sorry...)

Maybe the whole home console thing could work if it dealt with the home market threatening these characters existence within the arcade; like more and more arcades are getting closed down from just being obsolete in today's day and age and how they're basically getting replaced with "new" versions of themselves (that they somehow meet....a plotline that could get REAL convoluted REAL quick....) And let's not forget, the original Vanellope can't leave her game because of her glitch, so her stakes would be at an ultimate high of Sugar Rush were to go down due to obsoletion.

That's what I'm talking about; the best sequels either A) Raise the stakes higher or B) Bring into light a Bigger Picture dilemma hovering over the story that conflicts with the main character's conflict. By trying so hard to be the hero, he almost became the biggest villain in his own movie (again, it's his overzelousness that Sugar Rush/the arcade world almost got destroyed by the Cy-bugs). And with that, to me the story is complete. Other than my musings above, I can't think of any real artistic reason to try and make a sequel out of such a self-contained story, a sequel that wouldn't feel like a step back rather than a step forward.

Comment by ShadowNeverDies on December 10, 2012 at 1:55pm

@The Dubya: It would still be it's own thing if incorporated all those characters and then gave us an avatar of a character Wreck it Ralph to blast through those worlds. If it's just hey look it's Sonic then yeah it's as bad as those two who won't be named and it would be called video game movie. I don't think anyone here is hoping that's what the film becomes, I'm saying you can play with characters that are established and then write funny material around that like they did with Burger Time for instance. Also no matter what it does obviously it's it's own thing. Ralph is our main character and we are following him. I like Ralph, but I was having more fun with Ralph when he was struggling to find his place as an aging video game villain than when he was bumbling around one area for an hour. Sugar Rush to me was pardon the pun...the more cookie cutter narrative and that's when the film just felt like another Dreamworks film which is still good, it just isn't great. And if we aren't supposed to evaluate the film that we wanted to get then everyone on this site needs to stfu period with their complaints towards the Star Wars prequels. I examined the movie, I said I liked it, I said I think they stuck around in sugar rush too long, that's analyzing the movie I got. If I was writing the sequel I'd start up with Wreck-It-Ralph becoming even more popular and eventually getting a home console release. Somehow Wreck it Ralph leaves the arcade and he's faced with (home console characters that are completely different than his arcade buddies), he's not the only Wreck it Ralph...what are the others like...if he's not the only one then how is he special at all. Good message for kids somewhere in that, and then you can do other stuff that I'm not necessarily thinking of atm but if they don't go down that route then yeah just like with this one I'm going to analyze what I got and voice an opinion. It's a 3 out of 4 stars film, it's still probably the best video game film ever made (if you don't count Scott Pilgrim). And we don't want Shrek, I don't want pop culture references because then that makes no sense. It was fine when Shrek had all the fairy tale stuff, but it lost me as did most films at the time when they had fight club jokes, reality tv jokes, and the songs...omg the songs just killed that franchise. I doubt anyone wants that to happen to Wreck it Ralph and I'm guessing instead of the references to video games in a 'I don't know' video game hub where they all live' you'd more prefer the pathos in 'shut up and drive' montage that made me want to leave the theater lol. And yes the ending worked on an emotional level, but that doesn't mean the last hour to get there was a perfect non-bumpy ride.

Comment by The Dubya on December 10, 2012 at 12:20pm

Well that's where I differ from everyone else I guess, because it was that beginning of the film that was getting me worried about how it was going to turn out. Yeah the shout outs were fun and all, but if that's all it was going to be, if they were to take your idea to "rewrite _____ but with a ton of video game references!", then it would've have been as good as it was. It wouldn't have been its own thing. It woulda just a rehash of some other films of similar ilk and would've ended up just tedious and patronizing. Again I direct you to the Ice Age/Shrek sequels. All you're talking about in your comment; that's still just a bunch of pop culture references (that Shrek already did anyways). GEEK pop culture references, but pop culture references nonetheless. And trying to write a story to squeeze in all those references instead of using them to ENHANCE an already good story as icing on the cake would've backfired like it did for those sequels. The Toy Story movies work because they had great characters and stories first, then all the toy-specific related fun came as icing on the cake. If WIR gets a sequel, it needs to be because they have a truly inspired idea that takes off from what the first one did and elevate it to the next level , to have a continuation of the over-arching theme of the story they're trying to tell/the over-arching pathos of the characters we're getting to know.
NOT just because "Oh well we just want to add Mario or F-Zero whatever so we can get more moneyz" or "Oh well we just came up with some VG-related gags so we're just gonna throw a bunch of them at the wall and hopefully some will stick."

Honestly, I get the feeling that this is just a case of people not getting the movie they WANTED instead of looking at the movie they GOT and examining it from that perspective. Everyone was already sold on the idea that this had to be Who Framed Roger Rabbit or Toy Story for....some reason (even from the initial trailers I don't know where people were getting that idea from), and you guys are walking out disappointed because of that. And again I must say; be careful what you wish for...

This isn't Toy Story, this isn't Who Framed Roger Rabbit, this isn't Shrek. This is Wreck-it Ralph. Just....get over it.

Comment by ShadowNeverDies on December 10, 2012 at 8:32am

@The Dubya Yeah I'm with everyone else here you need to realize that most people enjoyed the beginning of the film more than anything else. I mean I personally enjoyed the short film Paper Man way more than Wreck it Ralph but I still really enjoyed Wreck it Ralph but they spent way too much time in Sugar Rush and that would have been cooler if it was something like Mario Kart instead of Sugar Rush but Sugar Rush was meant to bring in the girls. However you don't want things taking over the story of Wreck it Ralph but I'd want him to be our avatar through other video game worlds...and not just two with one taking up an hour of the film. I'd prefer scenes like one where all the princesses talk about how boring it is waiting to be rescued or how that's sexist. You could have Jane Lynch in this kind of meeting to make the woman want to save the day for once and hilarity ensues. There I wrote a 5 minute gag for at most a 2 hour film. If they do that like 10 more times and write a plot around it they'll be good. And yeah just a quick gag on a Japanese video game would be cool. Also it isn't too hard to think of a scenario where Wreck it Ralph is trying to get back into the arcade. I remember back in 2003 you could bring a memory card from F-Zero GX and play that on FZero AX in the arcades and then share data. They could use that somehow as a premise for him being sent away from the arcade. Again with the Toy Story angle, trying to get back to Andys aka the arcade.

Comment by Robert Wild on December 9, 2012 at 9:34pm

Like I said, Mario doesn't need anything more than a cameo, they need to focus more on the script, as long as the cameo is smart and memorable, as opposed to him just being wasted as a character. As long as they get it right (and the sequel is actually a good movie) I don't see the problem with having Mario appear.

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