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Comment by artastrophe on May 25, 2011 at 3:43pm

@Happy Birthday Roboto

yeahhh Johnny Depp is a great example, too! He's quite awesome in general. :) I was also kind of curious about the method vs character acting as well, and I ran into this interview with Gary Oldman that I found interesting:

"Any actor who says he can become a character and gets totally lost in the role is full of shit. Because you would have to be clinically diagnosed as a schizophrenic. You can't get lost in the moment.

You look like you're totally in the play, in the moment, but you have a sense of perspective. But you draw on your past. If you have a scene with a big emotion, whether it's hysteria or laughter or tears, then you draw on stuff, memories, experiences. If that's method acting, fine. That's how I've always instinctively acted."

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on May 25, 2011 at 1:01pm

You know I want to send a little respect out to Johnny Depp, who is an amazing character actor, who creates a new and unique character and never seems to play the same person more than once, Ichabod Crane, Captain Jack Sparrow, Edward Scissorhands and so on! Just as Christian Bale is the current standard for the best method actor, changing his mind and body to match the character he plays, Johnny Depp is the best character actor, creating an elaborate behaviour and then adopting it.

 

What would Gary Oldman be, method or character?

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on May 25, 2011 at 12:54pm

@Jordan Isaac Richardson

It's all good m'man, you make some good points by teh way and I think Tom Hanks, one of the best actors working also falls into the Denzel and Bob DeNiro category where the man has his own behaviour most of the time, he only occasionally changes, like in Forest Gump or Cast Away (physical change).

 

@artastrophe

Nice 1!

Comment by Jordan Isaac Richardson on May 25, 2011 at 12:39pm

@Happy Birthday Roboto

I understand what your saying.  And this, I realize is just an innocent debate. :)  To clarify though, I wasn't saying that he should stick to what he normally does.  I was stating that he is a good actor with what he normally does.  But when he DOES branch out, he ends up doing something pretty great, and even sometimes memorable.  As listed in the previous movies that were stated before.  Again, I understand what your saying though.

Comment by artastrophe on May 25, 2011 at 11:59am

@Cthulhu R'lyeh
I think we can all agree Gary Oldman is in a class all his own. ;D <3 I really haven't seen enough of Cruise's work to concretely judge him either, I guess--but so far Oldman is the only actor that has absolutely and consistently blown me away... and I could just gush over him all day, but I guess that would be getting even more off-topic. xD

@ Happy Birthday Roboto

still agreeing with everything you're saying! (and thank you ^^)

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on May 25, 2011 at 11:40am

@Jordan Isaac Richardson

Actually I am saying that about Denzel Washington and Robert DeNiro, who are both guilty of playing themselves, Denzel at least takes serious roles where he plays an intelligent man inbetween the rock and the hard place, but current Robert DeNiro is just lampooning his younger self! I still think they're both great actors though, I just think that by not eliminating their mannerisms they're not perfect, Christian Bale and Gary Oldman are one step higher. That said Christian Bale did his Batman voice in Terminator Salvation and his Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins reminded me a little too much of his Patrick Bateman! The point is even the most talented people are not "on" all the time! They're all amazing actors.

 

Dude I am NOT trying to pick a fight with you but your reasoning is flawed, think about it, you've just said that basically if a professional finds a range that works stick to it, true but that's called coasting and that makes you average, you want to stand above the crowd, surprise people by extending your range.

Comment by Jordan Isaac Richardson on May 25, 2011 at 11:04am

@Happy Birthday Roboto: Sorry to say.  But if your referring to an actor's repetitive mannerisms, movements and especially their range of characters, you could also say that Denzel Washington and Robert DeNiro are not great actors either.  Which we all know is not true.  He has a style that works, and sticks with it.  And when he needs to get out, he gets out and does a great job.  I doubt anyone is saying he's Christian bale.  But then again who is?  He is a fine actor and nobody should feel that he could negatively affect this movie in any way regarding his acting.

Comment by Cthulhu R'lyeh on May 24, 2011 at 5:16pm

Well, Tom blew me away with Born on the fourth of July, so I cannot say that he cant act. He isnt a Gary Oldman (even comparing Bale to Oldman is blasphemy), but certainly not a bad actor. Though maybe I just havent seen enough of his shit.

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on May 24, 2011 at 3:01pm

@artastrophe

I think you said it pretty nicely.

Comment by artastrophe on May 24, 2011 at 1:56pm

@Sumilidon

@Jean Genie.  In what world is he a crappy actor?  He's a great actor

Yeah I'm going to echo Happy Birthday Roboto here, who managed to say it much nicer ^^... in the same world where you have actors like Gary Oldman and Christian Bale... let's face it, Cruise is not even in the same league. I wouldn't call him crappy, but I would never call him great.

(and yes I may have a huge crush on Gary Oldman be biased but you can't deny the FACTS! xD)

Can't say I'm too impressed with this premise (or Cruise) so far, but I've never seen the graphic novel so my opinion is pretty unsubstantiated/worthless at the moment. I am willing to be swayed; that's some gorgeous art!

Also I was pretty disappointed at first just because I thought they were making an Oblivion movie but without Sean Bean... ;D

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