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Comment by Kelly on October 21, 2012 at 1:30pm

Had to skip this because I hadn't seen Korra yet, now that I have, went and tracked this down. My thoughts:

• I thought it had a slow start for the first few eps, I didn't care for the romance and there were a few things the characters did I thought was a bit dumb. For the love triangle, while I can imagine real teens acting like that, I didn't find it compelling. I'd get why they'd be attracted to each other, but we weren't shown enough of those two really connecting. And the way they had Bolin cry like that was more uncomfortable than funny or endearing, wish they'd given that character more dignity so I'd like him more. For me the humour in this show always had a weird awkwardness to it, even the first series.

• Btw, Katara and Zuko never had any romantic interest in each other, that's just what fangirls wish happened. Other romantic interest Katara had was Jet.

• Now that you mention it, it is pretty cool that they made Korra direct about her feelings instead of going for the cliched pining for him route.

• Anyway, after the drama during the tournament was resolved and the plot started moving, I found myself really enjoying it. I was expecting worse of Mako and the romance because I heard so many people hating on it, but it really wasn't an issue to me after the first few episodes. One thing I wish they'd though out better was when Tarrlok proposed the curfew for all non-benders, Tenzin and the rest of the council should have pushed to have the curfew apply for everyone regardless of bending abilities. It would have been fair and Tarrlok wouldn't have been able to complain cuz it'd still fit the reasons he gave for imposing it.

• Loved all the info they gave on the old characters' lives after the series, hoping for more next season.

• Was worried Korra'd be too 2 dimensionally obnoxious and rash, but I'm glad there was more to her when she showed she does care for the rights of the non-benders and her duties as Avatar.

• Speaking of which, that conflict with the Equalist brought up a really interesting point. Non-benders really are at the mercy of benders, Amon's terrorist tactics and his reasoning by saying all benders are bad is wrong, but the issue is still real. I'm glad they did acknowledge the complexity of the issue in that scene where Korra confronted Tarrlok instead of saying we should just root for Korra taking them down because she's the main character and they're the bad guys. Even if it wasn't as much as I wish, like show us if the government really is unfair to non-benders and if we should root for them or not. Hope they do more with it in book 2.

• Amon's a pretty smart villain, I loved how they showed how he knew what he was doing and we got some good character exploration with Korra when she had to face how helpless she was. I got his motivation for doing it too.

• I didn't mind Tarrlok not working with Amon, his own reasons made sense and it's more interesting this way, would have been too predictable if he was. The world isn't split to just 2 sides, just because someone's not on the side you're against doesn't mean they wont have their own agendas.

• The boat scene is unclear. Maybe Tarrlok is just devastated after loosing his old life and his bending and wants to take Amon down with him. But Amon seemed aware about what Tarrlok would do, and if he just wanted to die with him why bother with the "lets find a new life together" pretense?

• Lightning bending felt like it wasn't made a big enough deal about compared to the first series, only Azula and Ozai could do that. Even Zuko had trouble with it. But this might be a nitpick.

• Am i the only one that noticed some of the backgrounds looked unfinished? The colours and perspective were fine, but it was really brush-y and didn't match the clean colours of the animated characters.

• Liked the character designs more here than in the first series. The faces are drawn better and are more distinct and the costumes are more interesting.

• When Korra lost her bending, she had to struggle with her self-worth and thought Mako had no reason to like her anymore. I wished she'd resolved those issues before getting her bending back, because those are good questions. Is all of her self-worth placed on being the Avatar? If it is, how would she carry on?

• Looking forward to them exploring the mystical side of the world in book 2, that aspect felt missing in this season, which is not necessarily a bad thing if they intentionally wanted to set it up that way.

Comment by pyranova on July 9, 2012 at 10:53pm

@Noel Penn- well if you're going to be an ass, sure. They're not my words, and if you have a problem with it I'll message you the person's url.  Talk to them.

I don't agree with all the statements, but they have a point.  Making excuses is just that, and does not justify sloppy execution.

@Virgil

- Totally agree, I sincerely hope that season 2 address it and it's not all laid to rest peaches and cream.

- Hmm no.  The world is not ending, if Avatars can just instill power in any avatar, why not do that for Aang when peoples lives were on the line?  This is not life or death, it just really sucks for the benders.  But it's just another thing Korra got her way on, if Korra had all her bending still I don't think the resolve would have happened so fast. Also, it sends a terrible message to all the non-benders.

-Amon's motives kinda of just poofed away when he was busted.  He lead a life behind this belief only to have it gone in seconds?  It's not impossible if something truly meaningful happened, like say his brother.  Oh wait, he just de-bended him and locked him in jail.  With that heartlessness, he would have moved on and started over again.  Why is now different, because Korra was there?  To be clear I liked their story, it just didn't fit with the over all story they had built.

-Korra doesn't think a lot of things through, flawed character traits are good.  But not when they get away home free every time.

-I agree, but the show sure made it seem that way.  If they bring it up and resolve it truly, that would be great.

-Ha ha, definitely.  It never bothered me but when pointed out it did seem silly.

-I think Tarrlock's story alone works fine.  Being smashed around by the avatar, being de-bended, losing your career, especially one as a political figure definitely explains his turn around.

-Strongly disagree.  It's cliché for television now was well.  However I don't care so long as the relationship makes sense and the characters are likable.  For this show, for me, it fails on the latter.

-I have issues with it, mainly because the chance at redemption was shinning in their faces.  But that scene completely worked for me in it's tragedy.

-Because of magic, weeee.  Everything's rainbows for Korra.  She hasn't even look into spiritualism and by you saying she was suicidal means her self worth is based on power.  (But I don't know how you saw that as being suicidal, I just saw that as depressed.)  It's one thing to unlock the avatar state, another to control it.  I hope she doesn't have full control yet, because she does not have spirituality down even a fractional amount.  The whole deus ex machina of fixing Amon's damage is annoying, stupid, and sappy writing.  But solely by itself, I can believe her ability to heal the damage was more a reflex rather than absolute control.

-Agreed, too many people on a mission makes it messy anyway.

-Agreed.  The only thing that bothers me is that Bumi isn't a bender.  It just defies genetics.  But we know very well people don't need to be a bender to be amazing.

Comment by Kubla Veruca on July 8, 2012 at 3:55am

Comment by PirateLordBush on July 8, 2012 at 12:34am

What Virgil said.

And c'mon, you're complaining about something (Bumi) that isn't even introduced until the final 2 minutes of the show. And the fact that he's prolly gonna be one of the main side characters of season 2. Don't you think you're a little bit nitpicky?

Comment by Virgil Tibbs on July 6, 2012 at 8:24am

@bloody black valentine: I agree with a few things the tumblr poster said. I did not have much emotional investment in ANYONE in Legend of Korra but I don't have emotional investment in the characters of 99% of the media I consume. For me, my emotional investment is achieved over time; I didn't really care about the Gaang until season three of Avatar:TLA.  

I disagree with the poster on many things. <SPOILERS>

-The conflict was not a lie. The strife already existed; Amon just capitalized on it. 

-There was plenty Drama and suspense. Spirit bending is an entirely internal technique, I can buy that she could learn it from Aang. Korra was having identity issues AND was trying to COMMIT SUICIDE; Aang was not wrong about her being at her lowest point. 

-Amon's motivation is exactly what it says on the Tin; the end of all bending. 

-Philosophical conflict was portrayed. I agree that it has not been wrapped up yet. 

-Korra was itching to confront Amon and it is within her character to not think things through. 

-Asami and Mako's relationship is not resolved. 

-I can't hate on the guy for having a back up plan. 

-Tarrlock's thing is he could not shake off the indoctrination of his father. It's like how a child of an abusive parent often becomes abusive. 

-It is and is not cliche. It is cliche in movies but almost unheard of in television; especially with another season coming up. 

-He saw that they were initiating the same vicious cycle that created them. 

-Korra can not only airbend now; she unlocked her spiritual side and has become a full avatar. 

-They separated so each of them could have their own climatic scenes. Iroh's mission was to stop the ambush of Bumi's fleet. 

-They just wanted to show who Bumi was and that he made there OK. 

Comment by EvilDemon9189 on July 6, 2012 at 6:51am

What is the name of the rapture book that they mention? Thanks.

Comment by pyranova on July 6, 2012 at 1:18am

Found this on tumblr.  I don't feel as passionately as this person, actually I have no strong passion for Korra at all.  My biggest problem with the show is everything moves so fast there is no emotional attachment.  The whole "it's shorter than Avatar" is just an excuse for poorer writing.  That isn't fair, movies have 1-2 hours to emotionally involve you with its characters. Korra had over 6 hours so what's its excuse?

Why should I care about Korra or Mako?  The people I liked most were Lin, Tezin, Asami, and Bolin.  But the other two, they're horrible people who get away consequence all the time for their mistakes.  By mistakes I don't mean holding them to a level of perfection, but down to how disgustingly they treat their own friends.

Not including the url name because the blog is a bit on the nsfw side.  I'm not being sensitive, but this is a public site and my comment so I'll do it how I want to.

I do not look back on the Watchmen fondly, and it's really annoying you guys didn't bring up how horrible of a person Mako is.

Korra Series Finale Thoughts (Spoilers) [So Pissed]

This is the most mad I have ever been at any piece of media. This makes me look back fondly on Zack Snyder’s ‘Watchmen’. I can’t believe I feel this much fury at a fucking cartoon. Spoilers and angry dissection after the jump.

-The whole bloody conflict of the entire series was a fucking lie, why? What’s the point after all this then? No class conflict, no conflict between nature vs technology, no struggle between the spirit world and the physical one. Just a wild plot twist out of nowhere that couldn’t really be predicted, then the good guys punch some dudes and everything is solved.

-EVERY CONFLICT IS RESOLVED WITH ANY DRAMA OR SUSPENSE, what the fuck. Korra is healed completely because MAGIC. Lin is healed because MAGIC. Korra and Mako can love each other because Korra is magically restored; she struggled with the torment of identity issues for about five minutes before MAGIC, got better and can accept herself again! Every struggle or problem is wrapped up neatly in bow in 5 minutes.

-So what was Amon’s motivation again? Daddy issues? He wants to be more powerful than his father? Prove that he’s better? I have no fucking clue. He obviously doesn’t care about the privilege of bending so why should the viewers or any of the underprivileged people in the world.

-Why make Amon’s whole fucking identity a lie from the start and never once hint at it? Why bother even trying to portray a philosophical conflict you have no intent of actually showing?

-Why the hell would Korra and Mako randomly burst in and shout ‘AMON IS A LIAR’ and think that would solve anything? Why would anyone believe them with absolutely no evidence but heresay?

-Asami and Mako’s relationship is resolved…how? She accepts he cheated on her and left her? She doesn’t care anymore? Is she secretly banging the president of cabbage corp? That would make about as much sense as anything else we saw.

-The triple swerve on Amon’s identity was dumb. He kept a fake paint scar on at all times JUST IN CASE his mask fell off? Why bother even having the mask fall off twice? Just to get a quick ‘WTF’ from your audience before going ‘GOTCHA!’?

-This also kinda contradicts Tarlock’s whole…everything. Why would he continue his father’s legacy if he hated him so much? He’s not helpless before the hands of fate or something, he could tell what he was doing and choose to keep at it why? Why knowingly fulfill the whims of a man you hate?

-Oh sweet the terribly cliched lead male x lead female romance rides a-fucking-gain. I guess everyone needs someone to bone down with regardless of whether it matters to the plot or anything.

-Tarlock suicide attacks his brother because…? Question mark? Why would he suddenly want to kill himself? Why not just incapacitate his brother and jump off?

-Seriously what the hell was the point of what I just saw? All the struggle meant nothing, no threats were real, there was literally no character development. Everyone is exactly the same as we found them in the beginning, exactly the fucking same. Oh wait, Korra can airbend now, I guess that’s different! Yippe.

-the world is completely the same. This wasn’t a story it was a sitcom, where thing is perfectly fine and back to normal at the end, it just took us a few extra hours to get there. No difference to the world. This might as well have not happened.

-Why bother diverting Asami, Bolin and Iroh to a different location for an arbitrary reason, why not just leave the group together for the dramatic revelation? The whole airbase attack had no drama or importance.

-Oh hey There’s Bumi! He looks crazy and charismatic and he annoys his straight laced brother this oughta be funny! Haha fuck you! You don’t get to see for more than 2 seconds and he says nothing!

-I am retroactively angry at myself for ever being excited about this thing.

Good things:

-Uhhhhh….

-Bolin got like 5 lines instead of 1? That’s an improvement.

-General Iroh was badass as hell.

-I can sleep in later on Saturdays.

-I don’t have to press a button on my DVR Friday night.

-Breaking Bad starts in 3 weeks and that’s actually well written.

-My self esteem about my own writing capability shot up through the roof. If this can be on tv, anything can.

-The Euro is on in 2 hours and will have way more dramatic tension and character development than spectacular showcase of deus ex machina.

Comment by El Pollo Guerrera on July 4, 2012 at 2:21pm

MY BANANA CURVES AWAY FROM MY MOUTH!!!

GOD HAS FORSAKEN ME!!!  WHY, GOD...  WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Comment by Kevin McMullin on July 4, 2012 at 1:54am

I've been watching Metalocalypse lately and that show i has people dieing in the most burtal ways possible, It's bad but it does serve the metal music theme.

 

 

Comment by Virgil Tibbs on July 4, 2012 at 12:50am

@Dazz one: Dude, this is...

Anyways, yes, it does matter. Our beliefs inform our decisions/actions and have consequences in the real world.

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