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Comment by Jon Riddle on February 7, 2012 at 11:32am

A few other great Man vs Nature movies: Westworld, Assault on Precinct 13 (1976), Cube, The Naked Prey, Jeremiah Johnson, Dead Man, Saving Private Ryan, Menace II Society, The Out of Towners (1970), Midnight Cowboy, Hell in the Pacific, The Evil Dead, and almost every prison, haunted house or war picture you've ever seen. It isn't a great film, but The Money Pit also comes to mind.

Comment by Mainstream12 on February 7, 2012 at 11:27am

If "Before Watchmen" was a passion project that DC greenlit, I'd be much more enthusiastic.  It doesn't even have to be by Alan Moore - just someone who really loved and, more importantly, understands the original work and has something interesting to add to the universe. But the whole way DC is going about it - making multiple mini-series, hiring several writers and artists, branding the hell out of it - I'm sorry, but I find it a lot difficult not to get my feathers ruffled, so to speak. Yes, they got some good talent, and the good stuff will rise to the top while the bad will sink, but when people say it feels like a cash grab, that's why. I could be totally wrong - maybe someone at the top really loves Watchmen and is masterminding the whole thing, but it doesn't feel that way, and that's what irks me.

For me, it's not an issue of whether DC has the "right." It's where their intentions lie that worry me.

Comment by Jon Riddle on February 7, 2012 at 11:21am

I've been told, and maybe one of you can confirm this, that Neil Gaiman (pre Sandman) was next in line to write Swamp Thing for DC after Rick Veitch, but he turned it down specifically because DC rejected the crucifiction story proposed by Veitch.

Comment by Jon Riddle on February 7, 2012 at 9:51am

Thanks for the WIlliam Girdler recommendations, Brian! I loved Grizzly, and I'm sure Day of the Animals and The Manitou are both movies I'd enjoy watching. On the subject, I would like to chime in with a recommendation for Frogs starrign Sam Elliot and Ray MIlland. It was one of many 70's ecological horror movies where nature revolts against pollution and goes on a killing rampage. (This is what you get for making Iron Eyes Cody cry, motherfuckers!) In Frogs, the fauna of a swamp rise up to kill a family of wealthy ne'er do wells in retaliation for chemical dumping caused by the factories owned by the family. Sam Elliot plays a visiting ecologist who has come to warn/rescue the family and charm the petticoats off the local nubiles. People are killed by lizards, spiders, alligators... come to think about it, just about every animal except the frogs themselves! It's a fun ride, dumb, but entertaining. Brian, if he hasn't already seen it, would like it. Check it out, Spillios!

Comment by Jon Riddle on February 7, 2012 at 9:19am

CAPTAIN CHRONOS! I am so excited about this! Cyrus, go check out the original Captain Chronos. It's like watching Errol Flynn vs Dracula. The movie itself was an inspiration for Marvel's Blade and is a very enjoyable swashbuckling adventure. The title would suggest a much sillier movie than what actually exists. The title is the worst part of the movie. Go check it out; I highly recommend it.

Comment by MaxJayJay on February 6, 2012 at 10:07pm

Is Jason part of the STAG group?

Comment by Kevin McMullin on February 6, 2012 at 9:44pm

Hollywood has made movies of mans fight against nature, but what if an actor goes and faces nature for real with the foremost survivalist Bear Gryll's in an episode of Man vs. Wild.

"Will half of that twinky was for me". "You just ate all our rations".

Comment by Dr. Detfink on February 6, 2012 at 8:56pm

Remember that scene in Midnight in Paris, where Marion Cotillard's character keeps going further back in time saying, "No, this IS...the perfect time to live in." that's Moore who is Woody Allen's nostalgia merchant and refuses to embrace the now.

Comment by Toe Knee Bee Ears on February 6, 2012 at 3:28pm

Is Gremlins a man versus nature film? After all, they are just basically wild animals doing their thing. If so, that would be my favorite man versus nature film.

Regarding Before Watchmen, Alan Moore should get off his high horse. After all, did he ask Robert Louis Stevenson, H. G. Wells, Jules Verne, Bram Stoker, H. Rider Haggard, Sax Rohmer, Arthur Conan Doyle and any other author that I might be forgetting permission to use their characters in his book The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? They might have thought that his book ruined their characters. DC can do whatever they want with Watchmen whether it is right or wrong.

Comment by MDS on February 6, 2012 at 11:26am

Just a point of interest when it comes to Bill Waterson and Calvin and Hobbes....

 It wasn't that there was a big deal with Waterson and products. It was the UNLICENSED products (rip-offs) that were flooding the market, as well as the marketing department that wanted to have Calvin and Hobbes plastered on products that weren't really "in-character" with the comic-strip. A good example is the Calvin "peeing on ------" stickers that you see from time to time. It was unlicensed products that didn't really support the character's protrayal as seen in the comics. It's when they started to fight in courts and production offices to "cease and desist" the production of those "unlicensed" Calvin and Hobbes products, that Waterson finally decided that he would pull the ultimate move on the product. In order to get the rights to do products that HE wanted for the character, he stopped doing the comics and maintained the rights to the characters. That's why there hasn't been anything like a TV-show or Movie, because of the rights of the characters are solely in the hands of Waterson and he refuses to let people do something stupid with the product/character.... Like Maraduke movie.

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