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THE LEAGUE OF EXTREMELY ORDINARY GENTLEMEN: Volume 6, Issue 23: Mutants

THE LEAGUE OF EXTREMELY ORDINARY GENTLEMEN: Volume 6, Issue 23: Mutants

Okay, well, mainly the X-Men, because now that the entire League has seen "X-Men: First Class", they were chomping at the bit to talk about it. We get into the best and worst runs and characters of the comics as well, and oh, who is that? It's our old friend Brandon from Austin Books and Comics to go head to head with Randy in the comic book corner. Check it...

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Comment by Manuel Guardado on October 7, 2011 at 6:14pm
there's a guy that has a mutation in San Francisco that makes him completely immune to AIDS
Comment by DazzOne on June 28, 2011 at 7:26pm
I always thought that Storm was the compassionate equivalent of Xavier, Cyclops seems to lack emotion.
Comment by Zen on June 15, 2011 at 9:14pm
How very mature of you John.
Comment by John Rubio on June 15, 2011 at 8:42pm
Grant: You're a stupid head.
Comment by Grant on June 15, 2011 at 11:08am
Well, Rubio, I know that Wolverines adamantium claws are silly and illogical, but if Pyro were able to melt Wolvies claws I would throw a hissy fit as well. These characters have certain established powers and, as ridiculous as it is, Emma Frost in her organic diamond form is supposed to be practically invulnerable. So within the established world we all are willing to suspend disbelief to a degree and turn a blind eye to certain physics-defying elements of the movie but I can understand how someone can find Magnetos brass bedframe quickly cracking Emmas diamond form to be contrary to canon.
Comment by John Rubio on June 15, 2011 at 10:43am

Arguing about absurd physics in a movie whose central premise is only plausible if you accept said absurd physics (and equally shitty genetics) is self-defeating... and absurd.

 

How did a dude crack a diamond with some soft metal from a bed frame? I don't care. Why don't I care? Well, because in order to enjoy this movie, I first have to accept that:

 

1. The diamond in question is IN THE SHAPE OF THE WOMAN WHO somehow TURNED INTO IT.

2. The diamond in question turned into diamond because of GENETICS, and not fucking PRESSURE & HEAT.

3. The diamond in question MOVES and FLEXES in the same was as a human body, much unlike a real fucking diamond.

4. The diamond in question somehow still has a METABOLISM, along with other biological processes, which require chemicals other than FUCKING DIAMOND.

5. The diamond in question is supposedly the product of a natural power, but materializes as a PERFECTLY CUT stone, as if cut by a jeweler, when invoked. Diamonds don't look like that UNTIL they're cut. Maybe part of her mutant power is that a team of tiny, invisible jewelers happen and cut her diamond exterior every time she diamondizes.

 

If you're going to bitch about stuff like "BRASS VS DIAMOND NOOOOOOOES," then at least be consistent.

Comment by Zen on June 14, 2011 at 5:32pm

This is why I don't like arguing science semantics via text, nothing comes through well and I get to exhausted after the first large post to even care to do another large post beyond that. It also leads to misquoting and misinterpretation of my statements because I can't stop you in the middle of do it. I am doing one more, after that my apathy kicks in and I go play cards.

 

I will say however that you are turning my reasoning for Angel into a strawman; I never said anything about giant bugs (I am well aware that insect morphology fails structurally at larger sizes) and did not say that because bees can fly, she can fly; I only referenced that insect wings achieve lift in such a fashion that allows them to be much much smaller compared to body mass than other types of flight based wings and said that a human with insect wings would require a much smaller wingspan than feathered wings. Were her wings still too small? Probably, but if so than not by as much as you probably think. I may not be a physicist, but my last roommate for 2 years was and we had this conversation - insect wings work differently and require a vastly smaller surface area compared to body mass to achieve lift, if you were to convert that to a human's size/weight you would find that a set of 4 insect wings would achieve lift at a much smaller than a feathered wing, most likely each wing would need to be no longer than the person's body length.

 

As long as the entire sub and not just part of it, is being lifted at the same time, under the same force of a magnetic attraction stronger than gravity I would not see there being enough stress to tear the sub by the simple act of lifting it. The only point I would see there being a spike in stress is the exact moment it breaches the water. Because it is moving from a more dense to less dense medium the portion of the ship still submerged would be under more drag than the part above water. However this again seems to matter less because of the fact that the sub is actually being pulled by a particular part its frame, every molecule of the metal is being pulled/pushed/lifted at the same time. If the entirety of what makes the sub up is being lifted at the same time and velocity it should be like the entire sub is being supported, ie: very little stress beyond normal. If say a portion of the sub's frame were some non-metal or such then yes, I could see the sub tearing into pieces quite easily.

 

When you mention that these things fail in the real world you sound more like you are questioning the fact that they have and can wield the power. Which, true, in the real world none of this makes sense. I however, am not questioning that they have these powers nor than they have the ability to wield a rather inhuman amount of energy in relation to how much a machine might need to generate such forces, nor than they can train their power to increase the amount they can do with it (hello magneto grabbing orbiting satellites and moving meteors.). I Already stated that as far as I am concerned with powers in comics, you get the miracle exception that you have this power, that it works they way those things work. Amount of force wielded is even something I consider a gray area and let slide as well. What I am questioning, and where the problem arises for me is when you try to do something with a power and ignore some very basic, very uncomplicated aspects of matter, energy or forces that your power can in no way change, such as 'diamond is much harder than brass' or ' you can't turn back time by flying around a planet really fast'. Unless your power can specifically bend some universal rules (Franklin Richards) or rearrange matter (Phoenix), then you should still be 'semi' bound to them. It's a fine line, I admit, but it's one I prefer to walk when I write characters with super powers.

 

Honestly though none of that is what made me stop reading DC and then in turn, most of Marvel for a long time. They managed that in much more ludicrous ways.

Comment by SonicRulez on June 14, 2011 at 4:09pm

I hate DC's mindset as far as status quo goes. Oracle's going back to being Batgirl, fuck character development. Barry returns as Flash. Hal returns as Green Lantern. Bruce is back as Batman (granted we knew he wasn't gonna die ever). I really wanna see something in comics stick damn it. We thought maybe a few of those would since it's been years, but no. Screw it. Shout out to John Stewart being great in the cartoon and making green cotton gins. Also, that Nightcrawler movie idea sounds like...Spider-Man. Goofing around, kicking ass, cracking jokes. Spider-Man. Cyclops totally does get the shaft over the Knucklehead, but...I dunno if you can really do anything about that.I think to fix Wolverine they gotta keep Hugh Jackman since he's a good Wolvie, pull a Broad Strokes from TVTropes on Origins. Only some things happened, but not everything. Take him to Japan like they want to, and DON'T stuff a bunch of cameos down his throat. I don't want Gambit and X-23 and Psylocke and a bunch of people raining down. I just want Wolverine and the characters that are part of that story. Also, I love that the X-Men episode is like 20 minutes X-Men in a 167 minute episode.I think what you guys should do is just that the title is the theme of the questions this week, not the theme of the entire episode because that's more accurate.

Comment by Harris on June 14, 2011 at 3:35pm
(And really, if you wanna nitpick, how about the fact that apparently Xavier got shot through their bulletproof uniforms...)
Comment by Harris on June 14, 2011 at 3:33pm
(And before anyone says it, yes I know about the kidney bio-laser. Shut up, I'm rolling here.)

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