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Comment by MahMahAfro on September 20, 2011 at 6:12am

I don't get why they bother trying to carry on a franchise if they make it so unrecognisable that it's literally just the brand name that's left over. After I saw those first screenshots of MP3 I had that same feeling of "well, maybe they'll make it all make sense some how." Then I saw the trailer, and my heart really sank. Sure, gameplay is and always will be the most important part of a game, but people who say that's the only thing that matters just aren't seeing the big picture.

Comment by The Chaz on September 18, 2011 at 10:39am

Jeff, I have to respectively agree and disagree with you. We'll start with agreements:

I was very worried, when first I heard that Max Payne was not located in New York but Sao Paolo, and I still am. New York City was and is the ideal setting for film noir. But, if Rockstar can pull it off, I think it would be very intriguing to see a film noir story set in a place like Sao Paolo.

Another concern of mine which arose upon viewing the trailer was that I saw no nudge toward the comic strip style of storytelling that Remedy pulled off so well. Of course, that could have easily just been left out of the trailer.

 

And now, disagreements:
The trailer and screenshots depict a traditional looking Max: dress clothes, black leather jacket, typical noir-style hair. We then see Max shaving his head in a wife beater, khakis, and work boots. Which is hardly less tactical than his previous casual wardrobe. All he really needs is a gun holster. The shaved head and wife beater actually got me a little excited. This is Max. This is bare knuckled, purest form Max. It gives me the idea that through the course of Max Payne 3 we see Max descend to the lowest he's ever been. Here he is, miles -days, even- from home, all alone, and then he is battered and beaten even further. Until, finally, the game reaches that "sh*t just got real" moment, and he goes balls out at these guys. I feel like this may be Max finding himself (and therefore, saving himself), and the alcoholism and slight chunkiness is an illustration of an aging, broken down Max; showing us just how much saving he needs. However, no one is strong-willed enough to save Max but himself.

From what I saw in the trailer, the action is still there. The first two games were based heavily on the John Woo style of action. From what I've seen here, it's John Woo and Tony Scott (Man on Fire style Tony Scott). That's cool with me, as long as they find a practical way to keep it noir and keep John Woo in there.

Of course, I'm a bit of a pie-in-the-sky man myself, and I could be wrong; and Rockstar could give Max the battered, bruised, beating of a lifetime, but without giving him that kicka*s retribution. Leaving one of my heroes scramble-egged on the side of the road in Sao Paolo.

Comment by Joshua on September 16, 2011 at 8:28pm

@ Markezzo - I agree!  Professor Jeff, you can't get bent outta shape over a few screenshots and a 1 and 1/2 minute teaser trailer!  For all we know that little part with the beard and shaved head could only be a little piece of the game.  Case in point - 0:16 - we see Max Payne in his normal self!  So don't get discouraged Jeff!

Comment by Booty Viking on September 16, 2011 at 3:58am

Trailers can lie, hopefully there is more to the story than rescuing a damsel in distress from some gangsters. I was also a fan of the dark, film noir style the first game had. This game can be good too, don't get me wrong, but so far it feels like I'm just forcing my brain to see things that I'm used to seeing in Max Payne when they actually might not even exist in this game. If this game wasn't called Max Payne it probably would have looked like a generic shooter to me.

That DOA5 photage though, AWESOME!

Comment by Hugo on September 15, 2011 at 7:17pm

I can only pray that the graphic novel cut-scenes return, otherwise, this is a Max Payne game in name only. The action looks solid, as it should be, but personally the colour pallette turns me off. I get that its sao paolo, and should be bright and vivid, but it doesnt suit the hard-boiled nature of the brooding first two games. If they're taking the story in a new direction, good for them. It doesn't look to be my cup of tea, Max Payne 2 rounded off the story nicely, and it felt right to end it there

*SPOILERS*

Max had accepted that his wife was gone, and it was a great note to end on. If this game is going to finish it off, i dunno, it just doesnt feel right that it should end in Sao Paolo.

Comment by Gabriel Blomberg on September 15, 2011 at 6:20pm

I can't see what the problem is really? Loved the first two games, played both several times and i kinda liked the trailer. The setting could easily work for the noir feeling associated with max payne, instead of talking about the horrible snow storm like in the first one, he could hate the heat, instead of the lowlifes in NY theres lowlifes and slum in sao paolo.

 

The story kinda fits as well, washed up cops moving abroad working private protection, its perfect for the corporate conspiracy and corruption themes that were in both earlier games. As long as they capture the sense of dread, they don't need NY or even night and dark for noir!

 

This is my first post BTW, had to sign up when i saw all the hate for this trailer!

Comment by Crispy Cunt Christian on September 15, 2011 at 12:23pm

Finnaly that man on fire game ive been waiting on for al these years.

Comment by AlbinoAssCheek on September 15, 2011 at 11:56am

@Gregory Alford I see where you're comin' from, I think I might be in the minority here in that I approve of the direction the game is taking but as adults we all know (or should know atleast) is that the differing opinions doesn't have to translate to namecalling, Spill.com is surprisingly well mannered in those terms. I like IGN but reading their comments is agonizing, every single post turns into fanboy this or that. I appreciate the 'debating" taking place here being more focused on narrative and atmosphere as opposed to "xbots are dumb" or other juvenile bullshit you see on other websites.

Staff Comment by Professor Jeff on September 15, 2011 at 10:57am

@Gregory Alford

 

I've always tried to encourage people to have their own opinions. Hell, I welcome friendly debate, I just don't like what I see here. I've been playing game for years and watching trailers for as long as they've been steadily released and this one doesn't bode well. I'd love to be proven wrong; hell, I HOPE I'm wrong. I love the Max Payne franchise and want it to succeed. Unfortunately, what I see in this trailer does nothing for me. If someone makes a good point about something I've overlooked or missed, great. I read all the comments for all the video game stuff we do and I love feedback. But it doesn't change the fact that my first impression of this trailer was a stone cold 'meh' and for Max Payne, that's a shame. Maybe that makes me elitist, but I know what I like and this isn't it.

Comment by Gregory Alford on September 15, 2011 at 10:41am

I maybe new here but I have noticed somethings about this website and people here who are signed up to it. That you guys agree with anyones article just because you like him. I mean no offense to Professor Jeff but I feel that you are going way overboard about this trailer its like you have this Elitist view about games if there not the perfect setting that you agree with than its wrong. I mean come on you act like its blasphemy for him to have a shaved head and tank top or for him to be a little for overweight lol even though this game is supposed to take ten years after the last game. However to finish my point even the people here in the comment section are just jumping on your bandwagon because they are like mindless drones whenever someone hates something they feel they should hate it too with no independent thought process. That's just my opinion

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