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Problems with my Avengers Plot?
This article is a followup to my Avenger's plot. If you had not read it, please do so.
I realize that there will be problems with any plot, but there are several choices I made which I feel I should defend.
First, Loki comes out of nowhere in the plot. In the film, I would have the character take the form of a few different characters and then give the audience little hints that he's a shape shifting god.
The Hulk doesn't come until the end of the first act. This is a fair complaint, but the first part is to ease people into the Marvel universe. Slowly, over the film, the elements become more fantastical and less realistic. So the movie shifts from being a Tom Clancy science-fiction thriller, to a more fantasy based thriller.
Captain America doesn't show up until about half the movie passes. The reason for this is that he'll be heading the next Avenger's film, if the franchise continues. It is also the reason that Hawkeye and the Widow don't get more screen time, because they'll be the main cast of the sequel. In fact, because Hawkeye and Black Widow get so little screen time in this movie, they should make each appearance count, as they are almost always seen while fighting.
General Ross is in my script, because he is the man Tony Stark goes to in the latest Hulk movie. Otherwise I'd have left him out. Plus his appearance at the beginning of the film will keep Hulk fans happy until the Green Goliath shows up. The tension that he creates between the US military and SHIELD sets up some pretty good conflicts to happen in future films.
The Pyms start off with their powers, so that a prequel can be made about them where they go on adventures. However, I downplay their powers at the start of the film to make them more viewer friendly for non-comic fans.
A.I.M. makes more sense when it comes to stealing hi-tech Marvel-grade weapons, but the organization could easily be replaced with Hydra. Yes, this movie would be under three hours long, but it would make nearly everyone happy, as they'd be getting their money's worth.
Thor doesn't get much screen time in the film, mainly because he's too powerful. When Loki captures him, he'll have to de-power the god by separating Thor from his hammer. Fans of Thor might be disappointed, but when he shows up, he really steals the show in the fight scenes.
The last fight with the Hulk doesn't really need to happen, but it should, just to give the audience one last breath of fighting, and seeing how the Avenger's screw up after the main battle is over. It will probably exhaust the audience by that point, but it will make the movie better and more re-watchable. If the studios really want to cut
time, they can just make the Hulk leave after the bio-weapon is stopped.
This movie is made so that if some of the stars don't want to return, they have a good exiting point, but they can come back if they want to.
If you wanted to get Captain America into the film earlier, you can make Tony Stark find him in the AIM compound at the beginning of the movie. But I like the fact that he comes in later, so that we can be introduced to the rest of the cast, and how they find Captain America will come as a shock to most people.
Dr. Blake is not in this movie, because he doesn't need to be. The cast is large enough without him, although he might make a cameo when Loki traps the Avengers at the end of Act II.
Not all of the loose ends are wrapped up at the films finish. This is so that the characters can continue those threads in their own movie franchises. Nick Fury can track down A.I.M. (or Hydra) in his own film. We can revisit the Hulk in a future film. The Ant-Man film can tell what the Pym's do after they're finished with the team. And of course, Loki will cause more havoc in a Thor sequel. Despite all this, I feel that there is enough closure to keep everyone satisfied.
Some might complain that there is no clear point-of-view character, but I believe that the cast is very well balanced, giving everyone just enough of a chance to shine, without their story detracting from anyone else's.
Despite these potential problems, I feel that the plot I provided pays tribute to many of the early Avenger's stories, while being completely accessible to the average movie goer and keeping the core Marvel fan base pleased.
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Comment by Mike M. on February 18, 2010 at 12:07pm -
Ya, I thought about doing that when I originally went out to do this, but in my original (brief) outline, it came across as too scattered for my tastes. I didn't think it built up enough of the characters chemestries before the first big fight. Plus I felt it came across as too fantastical for most of the new Superhero audience; who'd rather see more of Batman and Iron Man and more believable characters. It's why in my previous script, I play up the more military aspects of the team and get the more unbelievable characters to come later.
Appreciate the suggestion though, I know my plot is not perfect (which is why I wrote this article.) And I didn't know about Howard Starks Involvement in the Supersoldier program in Iron Man II. (I guess they are going to just make the Ultimates.)
If you or anyone has a plot of your own you'd like to share, feel free to post. (I know I'd read it.)
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Staff Comment by Fungusmonkey on February 18, 2010 at 10:29am -
Have you thought about replacing most of the first act with something a little closer to the original comics? They teased the Avengers Initiative in Iron Man, and then revealed that Stark comes to Ross at the end of The Hulk to help with the capture effort. Why not take a cue from the original story and have them track The Hulk to the Arctic, have a brief throwdown and end it with The Hulk either escaping or being captured, and then having them find Cap's body frozen in the ice? That would introduce the Hulk, Cap, and Ross's involvement all in the first scenes and let you really expand the rest of the movie from there. Plus, it would make sense with Howard Stark's involvement with the super soldier program (hinted at in the upcoming IM2) and the deleted scene from The Hulk where Banner goes to the Arctic to try to be alone.
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