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This blog has no relation to the recent discussion threads but of more a personal query that I asked myself after an interesting conversation that I had yesterday. I recently began to express an interest in a young man who shared many things in common with me , from similar music artists , love of the performing arts , similar movies etc. I thought everything was peachy keen until we got into the discussion of going to clubs. Automatically he rejected the thought of going to the club due to all of the scantily clad women and the urge to fall into temptation. I tried to counter his adverse reaction by saying that clubs get a bad reputation in this city because of the crime rate but basically theyre just there for social interaction. He kept quoting the Bible to me while I was trying to make my point.

Since he was someone I was interested in I was thinking into the future. Although I consider myself a pretty good church girl and overall a good person I think he was judging me as some type of heathen since I partake in wine and spirts and dance a bit suggestively. But, Im young , no children, living a pretty good life so why not celebrate with dancing on a bar every now and then. So , the conversation basically ended on a sour note and basically he hasnt contacted me since. A part of me is pretty confused since he was the one who initiated us talking in the first place but now ever since the conversation he has labeled me as one of the "others" and left me thinking am I that bad of a Christian?

Idk...party hard anyway.
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Djavel Toussaint Comment by Djavel Toussaint on August 28, 2009 at 11:29pm
We'll even though my man ended it in a kind of shitty manner, got to respect him for actually trying to live what he preaches.
Napalm the Bomb Comment by Napalm the Bomb on June 25, 2009 at 6:29pm
guess i wont be seeing you at the NYC spill party lol.. seriously though i know alot of girls who party HARD, and i just got to say if he really knew ur character he would trust that u do the right thing when confronted with temptation. i myself go out time to time but i still keep it pg-13 ;) be glad he was honest with you cause u could have wasted alot of time and missed out on someone who is a better fit for u
Moxie Comment by Moxie on June 24, 2009 at 3:41pm
I don’t like clubs either, although not for any religious reason just because being groped by random intoxicated strangers and dry humping to shitty music is not my idea of a good time (it’s a wonder I’m single huh?). Under normal circumstance it wouldn’t be ok for a guy to put his genitals on my behind but if there music playing ...

So as someone on the other side of it i would just say if he doesn’t want to go to the club fine, find something else to do.
I think of myself as a good Christian too, but i run with folks up and down the spectrum of morality. I catch stuff from the far right folks sometimes but i always remind them my relationship with God is my relationship with God not there's if he has a problem with it he'll take it up with me. All anyone can do is the best they can.
Good Christians aren’t supposed to judge so if he is one you should have to worry. Sounds like minor thing really, if you like the guy i say go for it.
BlackMagic Comment by BlackMagic on June 24, 2009 at 3:40pm
I'm not familiar with the entire situation, but I say this: Christians as a whole are going to stumble and give into "temptation" all of the time- even more so than others because in their eyes and the eyes of others, they are expected to live to a higher standard. Or at least live close to perfection, which is impossible. While I see your point that clubs are for social interaction, the same could be said for movie theaters, diners, staying at home, seeing plays, or any other activity. Does that make going to any of those less harmful than going to a club? If you- by "you" I mean anyone- fall prey to temptation, then no. I guess because clubs are mostly nests for some people to dance on top of each other, drink themselves stupid, and throw away all inhibitions is the reason your friend rejected the idea. After all, how many clubs have solid reputations with only few instances of fights or drunken, disorderly conduct?

Unless you intentionally do throw caution to the wind when you partake in wine and dancing suggestively, then he could very well be justified in what he said. If you're just doing it to have a good time, then he may be going too far. Even still, being young and full of life, in my eyes, doesn't just mean go off and party because I can because you can celebrate in different ways. But it's your life. I wouldn't say you're that bad of a Christian- partly because I don't know you at all- but if you call yourself one, you're expected to stumble and make mistakes that will make you look bad in the eyes of others, but at the same time, you're expected to live to some sort of standard away from temptation.

I don't know. If you choose to party hard and say you're a Christian, go ahead. If your friend hasn't contacted you since then, you'll make new friends.
Troupe Comment by Troupe on June 24, 2009 at 3:38pm
oh yeah, you're totally turning into a pillar of salt.

sidenote: wow, i thought christians really weren't supposed to judge like that.

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