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Comment by Joseph Casterline on October 8, 2011 at 3:57pm

@Josh

The new The Thing is not a remake. It's supposed to be about what happened to the Swedish crew that you only see the aftermath of their dealings with the alien in the 80's John Carpenter movie. This makes it a prequel. (Why are both of my posts in this thread about prequels?)

Comment by Lavender Uke on October 7, 2011 at 11:05pm

How about a Deadpool movie already?

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on October 7, 2011 at 9:39pm

@josh

Ah, now I'm with you, yes by that logic, Tron Legacy did stand on it's own legs and I think fan and non fan can all agree that Singer was way too in love with the original Superman films to do anything New. It's a little sad for me personally as I thought that (aside from their obvious differences with the comics) Bryan Singer's X-Men movies were intelligent and I met him at the Superman Returns premiere in London and was a little let down by the film!

Here's the paradox, an edgy character, like a victim of child abuse, racist, vigilante, morally flexible lawman, etc, all make for good characters, but when it comes time to make them into movies, producers need to make them family friendly in order to feel safe in selling them. Hence the characters you described lost their edge!

 

There was a time when Star Trek had the guts to show the first interactial kiss on TV and Planet of the Apes made some social comments bold for it's day, now everything is played safe.

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on October 7, 2011 at 2:49pm

@Josh

To be honest, I think that my opinion is the opposite of your liking for Tron Legacy and dislike for Superman Returns.

 

But aside from that, I think that a big part of the problem is that studios know that they can market Hugh Jackman on talk shows and magazines and a large enough crowd will go to see a bad film, so it will make money. The problem is that finding a director with vision and scriptwriters with good ideas is not only hard but it costs a little more; so why do an outstanding job when a half-assed job will pay the bills!

 

Another big problem is that in years past Jackman was a nobody and he could take a risk by playing a comic book hero when the most recent comic book movies were Joel Schumacher's Batman movies and Wolverine was portrayed as a bit of an asshole. Nowadays Jackman's a big name star who has a lot to loose so they'll take the safe route of not having Wolverine be an asshole (even though he was before the events of X-Men) and by making a movie that won't offend parents, etc.

 

The Terminator was and action horror movie, with emphasis on the horror part, Terminator 2 was also an action movie, but a lot of the horror elements were gone and the film was marketed with action figures and even video games of the day. The truth is quality will suffer if money is to be made!

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on October 7, 2011 at 9:09am

@Josh

(See I knew from your first few comments I was going to have an intelligent conversation with you!) I didn't read the clone saga but I was aware of it and was very glad I missed it, but essentially yeah you're right. I don't think that people want as many remakes as we get, I think studios realise they can sell a recognisable name brand and since the original proved it could make money they simply clone (no pun intended) the original because it's the easy thing to do.

 

Paramount had the good sense and taste to let Star Trek go for a few years before they made the new film, Warners did the same with Batman, unfortunately 20th Century Fox are in the predicament that if they don't keep making X-Men movies the rights go back to Marvel and since Marvel are now making their own movies they'll probably keep the rights! :(

 

Another problem is that whereas a whole new generation of kids have never seen old films like the Superman movies, the audience going to see the new ones are made up of both the new and old audiences, so studios need good ideas like Superman Returns, which was a good idea in the sense that it avoided being a reboot but didn't quite hit the mark in terms of action and story! :(

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on October 6, 2011 at 7:32pm

@josh

What can I say, you're not wrong, the X-Men need to be left the heck alone for a few yers then Marvel should do an X-Men Begins or something!

Comment by Austin Arminio on October 6, 2011 at 1:57pm

hope its better then the last

 

Comment by John Lemus on October 6, 2011 at 1:28pm

I am pretty sure this is going to be the last of the movies

Comment by Joseph Casterline on October 6, 2011 at 1:07pm

Pretty sure Happy meant "prequel" not "sequel".

Comment by Haze-man on October 6, 2011 at 8:59am

I'll give Hugh the benefit of the doubt.  He was great in Prestige.

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