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Comment by Hasani Baganji on December 4, 2011 at 7:57pm *sigh* Well, on the one hand, I'm sad to hear that Korey really did have issues with Carlyle...underperforming?
On the other hand, I'm happy you guys finally told the truth on here! 'Cause it was pretty transparent to me. Carlyle was my favorite personality on the site, and I was very disheartened when he stopped doing the reviews. "At least I've still got ACOCO." I said. Then when Leon came on as a "guest appearance" going 'Well, I just happened to be passing by and thought I might pop in on this podcast for I tick.' I went "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!" 'Cause I knew that was the death knell for Carlyle.
That being said, even though Carlyle was my favorite, there's no denying the chemistry between Korey and Leon is stronger, and I thoroughly enjoy listening to them BS; almost as much as I love the BS-ing from Korey and Co-Host. I will say though, I never noticed Carlyle getting weaker in terms of discussion. Obviously Korey (the one actually recording with him) feels differently, but I thought Carlyle did a fine job every time. I did notice a couple of times when Carlyle had nothing more to add, but simply wanted to continue on with the program, but that's what I really appreciated about ACOCO; the fact that there was less BS-ing and more of getting right down to business.
I suspect that that was the main issue all along: Carlyle likes to get straight to the point more-so than most, and doesn't like to unload as much as Korey does. Se la vi.
But in case anyone is still thinking that Korey hates Carlyle's guts, I ask you: Why does he keep his picture up on the ACOCO section of the 'Podcasts' page. (Korey, let me tell you: As a Carlyle fan, I almost teared up when I saw that you'd done that.)
Comment by Jeff W. on November 26, 2011 at 11:59pm Everybody else is throwing out their theories about what the deal is between Korey, Carlyle and to a lesser extent, Leon, so I might as run off the mouth too.
Here's the thing, these aren't just a couple of guys and a robot sitting around shootin' the shit about movies. Over the years we've learned that Korey, Leon, Cyrus, Co-Host and Carlyle aren't just voices and animated characters, but they are real people with real talents and skills. These dudes have experience as actors, animators, directors, writers and even bartending, just to name a few of their abilities.
Think of any long-running musical band and you'll find that as much as creative people like creating together, they don't always play nice together. If Korey is Steven Tyler and Carlyle is Joe Perry, then even though they make beautiful music together that doesn't mean they are always on the same page or don't have their own ideas on how to get shit done.
Carlyle played in the Spill band for a nice long time, but he went solo to pursue his own stuff. Good for him, God bless and I hope his movie kicks ass. But that doesn't mean he and Korey are joined at the hip. There were problems near the end of Carlyle's time at Spill. First he stopped doing movie reviews and there were too many ACOCO episodes where his lack of engagement was painfully obvious. Korey was trying to carry the show and get Carlyle to engage as well and the awkward silences were painful. In Carlyle's defense, between marriage, his writing commitments and trying to get his movie thing off the ground it was apparent his Spill ties were no longer as strong as they once were.
Korey is the Alpha Male at Spill and like the saying goes, "There can only be one." I dig the shit out of the chemistry between Korey and the rest of the crew, but odds are at some point one or more of these guys will split. I don't think it's "hating" on Carlyle for Korey to be reluctant to want to work with him again. We don't know all the details here or Carlyle's side of the story. Methinks there is more to the tale than has been told.
Just think of some of the people you've worked with or hung out with. Maybe you had a ball, but people move on and things change. So do relationships. That's the way of the world. People come and go in your life and it's not always about things staying static forever. That's not to diminish what Korey and Carlyle did in the past and what Korey and Leon are doing now. It's still ACOCO, but just like they dropped the original intro, things change.
Move on and let what's in the past stay in the past.
(Oh, and for the guy who bashed Co-Host as an "Artie Lange" clone or what the fuck ever, you can eat a bag of dead donkey dicks. Co-Host has grown leaps and bounds as a reviewer and LDT, as well as Spill itself would be a shell of itself without him.)
Comment by The Amazing Riojas on November 24, 2011 at 10:35pm
Comment by Declan on November 24, 2011 at 9:28pm awww way to hate on Carlyle....
Comment by Kevin McMullin on November 24, 2011 at 8:20pm Have you ever seen the Hugh Jackman stage version of Okalhoma, where they sing "Pore Jud Fry is Daid" and it is the darkest version I have ever seen, In this version Curly is egging Judd to kill himself.
Comment by Charlie Dirkx on November 24, 2011 at 8:11pm Not really sure if Leon was inviting people out to meet him for Black Friday, but I'd love to, seeing as I'm probably going to Grapevine Mills anyway.
Comment by Kevin McMullin on November 24, 2011 at 7:32pm The Artist is one of those movies I saw the trailer the other day and I'am very interested in it now!
If you love the history of silent cinema this might be the movie to see.
Comment by Waylander on November 24, 2011 at 7:31pm I loved carlyle on ACOCO, he was the reason i started listening to any of the podcasts on spill. He was also the best part of all the video reviews ( along with co host). Tbh i can barely remember all the pauses i do however remember laughing my ass of most of the time. Sure he might not be able to BS nonstop like co host or leon, but when he does talk its mostly all GOLD.So please have him on for a special Christmas podcast.
Comment by Dave29 on November 24, 2011 at 6:07pm Here's the thing about Korey:
You can call him an ugly faggot and he'll easily brush it off because he knows he's a very masculine and handsome man, but if you say anything about the website you'll get an extremelly hostile reaction.
He knows better than anyone that the website is not on top shape, he knows better than anyone that production get delayed often, he knows better than anyone that there is not a clear schedule, he knows better than anyone that Spill looks amateurish when compared to other similar sites, he knows the site is capable of so much more. He's the boss of this entire thing, and if the website is not as efficient as it could be it ends up making him look back, and given how much he struggles it's not really fair to pin the issues on Spill on him.
It basically comes down to a matter of not having enough resources(i.e. man power). Every one of the "spillios" is aware of this, and we have come to accept it as a fact of the website. We take what we love about the website, and don't demand more because we know that the guys simply can't give us anymore, at least not yet.
Comment by The Dragon on November 24, 2011 at 2:49pm love this show : )
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