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Comment by coolcras7 on June 4, 2010 at 1:59am

@ZPowers glad someone else has common sense to see why most superheros are the color they are.

Comment by Miguel on June 3, 2010 at 12:50am

wow best ACOCO yet! great job guys!

Comment by Palladiamorsdeus on June 2, 2010 at 8:26pm

Zpowers, that's not a bad point, but you also have to understand that we are talking about fifty years plus of character history. We aren't talking about a brand new super hero, we are talking about some one who has been around and been recognized in his non-super hero for for being what he is. It's a predefined character. It's really just a matter of recognition, and not one of preference in this case.

Comment by ZPowers on June 2, 2010 at 7:03pm

Re: These characters are that race for a reason:

I think a lot of these characters were made white based on the social and political considerations of the 1960s and earlier, a period that was still fairly racist (when desegregation was still intensely controversial, and the Civil Rights movement was at its fever pitch). I mean, the first black character in the Marvel canon, Black Panther, was so much about his racial identity that he's named after either a black power group or a segregated WWII battalion. Blade appeared in the seventies, and I'd bet anything he's directly inspired by Shaft, Blacula, and other blaxploitation films that had been popular, coincidentally, in the few years prior to his creation. So he's being based on popular black stereotypes of the time.

So that's pretty much the only significant reason for the white Spidey. Politically, in 1962, no one's gonna buy a comic about a black superhero unless it's pretty much primarily a comic about being black with a main character who's defining feature is "oh, he's black" (Black Panther) or (and this was even more than ten years later) was based on popular representations of black characters from the time (Blade, as he related to blaxplotation). So, Black Panther and Blade are black and that blackness ties DIRECTLY into their character and their initial concept, but that's just not true for Spidey. He's white because, well, white was default and white didn't make a political statement that could effect sales. None of that matters to the character or story, and none of that matters today.

Comment by Super Andrew on June 2, 2010 at 6:37pm

if you can make a persian prince white, you can make spiderman black

Comment by Bizzer10 on June 2, 2010 at 4:20pm

lol ending was funny

Comment by Palladiamorsdeus on June 2, 2010 at 3:03pm

Except that it isn't pointless to fans of this comic book hero, or that one. To the people who have followed these heroes with a lot of dedication down thru the years. It really isn't so simple as "This character could easily be that race and it wouldn't effect the story." Maybe that's true, but that doesn't change the fact that the people who have been following these heroes have a certain image of what they look like. I wouldn't feel right if they tried to make Blade into a white guy, and yet nothing about his story really requires him to be black. That's just the image I conjure when I think of Blade. So while it may seem pointless to you, and indeed maybe even to some of the fan's, it's kind of a big deal to people who really care about the character and his misadventures.

Comment by Puerto-Greekan on June 2, 2010 at 2:52pm

In Prince of Persia Sands of Time the game there is a 10 second time limit and a limit to how many sands you can hold to use it.
And Carlyle I agree games were harder than they are now.

Comment by RickC on June 2, 2010 at 10:22am

I have never heard a more well-constructed argument about something as pointless as a black or white Spiderman.

Carlyle couldn't be more right in my opinion. And I think that Donald Glover would be awesome as Peter Parker - and turning Peter Parker into a black guy would make no difference either way. This shouldn't be viewed as some slippery slope thing, where all super-heroes can be changed "willy nilly" for PR sake, or for whatever - but should be seen as an opportunity to take advantage of brilliant casting.

Like Carlyle said, most superheroes have reasons for why their race is their race (all his examples plus I'm sure there are tons of others).

Comment by Caleb Muibu on June 2, 2010 at 10:10am

I watched Donald on Leno(by accident folks I swear) last night and he had the crowd going wild he is really fucking funny in my opinion and I wouldn't mind seeing him as Spiderman, and not because of some crazy black solidarity on my part but because so far all the candidates have been douchebags and Glover's a funny dude. He's also a writer(formerly on 30 Rock) so he could bring some dialog input to the character.

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