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Comment by Virgil Tibbs on September 1, 2012 at 1:56am

@The Black Swordsman: 

For the third time, quote mining does nothing to support your argument. You still have presented no evidence or valid reasoning for your claims. I'm sorry I am the honest one that admits he does not know instead of manufacturing a God in the gaps of our current understanding. I'm sorry I don't assign attributes to something I don't even know exists. I'm sorry I can't force myself to believe claims that make the universe seem a little less vast and terrifying.

Enough being sorry:    

"Science explains everything." 

No, it doesn't; not yet. 

"Atheists say that theists are atheists about every other single type of god except for theirs. The key difference is that all of those other gods are gods that share this universe from us."

If God interacts with the physical universe (e.i. miracles), it will leave behind evidence that would imply said God. When proper scientists/ researchers perform studies to find this evidence (For example, the power of prayer), they find nothing to support Theist claims.

"We do not believe in Apollo bringing up the sun. We do not believe in Thor striking lightening bolts. We do not believe in a magical man with a beard in the sky." 

The key similarity is that we did not know why the Sun went "up" or why lightening bolts happened; so we stuck in a God until we found the real answer (kind of what you are doing now). Again, God of the Gaps/Argument from ignorance. 

"Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence" - Thomas Paine

So basically, assume a God exists and then assume everything is it's creation. Gee, no thanks. Seriously, assuming something is true until proven false does not lead you to the truth. Most often it leads you to accepting contradictory claims. If your unconvinced, go off in a corner and believe that Jesus was the Son of God and Jesus was only a Prophet at the same time. 

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Comment by Arnulfo Rojas on August 31, 2012 at 2:02am

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Comment by PC_Load_Letter on August 30, 2012 at 8:43pm

God DAMN this got dark.

Comment by The Black Swordsman on August 30, 2012 at 8:17pm

Science explains everything. I agree with this. I have a bachelors in biology. Believe me I know. I think these guys express perfectly why I think that mathematics and science have a rational origin.

"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science." - Wernher von Braun (considered by NASA to be the greatest rocket engineer of all time)

"The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you." - Werner Heisenberg (Noble Prize of Physics for Quantum Theory)

Atheists say that theists are atheists about every other single type of god except for theirs. The key difference is that all of those other gods are gods that share this universe from us. We do not believe in Apollo bringing up the sun. We do not believe in Thor striking lightening bolts. We do not believe in a magical man with a beard in the sky. We simply believe that Theism best explains the science in our world. When Isaac Newton made his laws of Gravity he did not say "aha, I have discovered Gravity, that is why God isn't magically pushing us down." He marveled even more at God's creation.

I personally think Thomas Paine said it best. 

"Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence" - Thomas Paine

This is the trap that all you atheists make. 

Comment by Chaos Jumper on August 30, 2012 at 11:10am

@The Black Swordsman
1. I am not an Atheist, so do not make quick assumptions and/or use Jumping to Conclusion fallacies or . . . U no look so smart

2. There have been other philosophers (The one I just said in my previous quote that you forgot) that can prove you wrong that it isn't the supernatural. Pythagoras, one of the greatest minds says that everything can be translated (Natural or supernatural) through mathematics, not just "It cannot be explained so it must be . . . some guy in the sky dicking around and got bored"

3. Aristotle was a Roman who believed in the Gods of Olympus so, much like Issac Newton saying that atheists are evil, works in context here as well as to saying "It was for the time to believe these things . . . because it was popular and against to rules to say otherwise unless you want to die" kind of stuff. 

4. Atheism is an idea, much like Abrahamism, Buddhism, Gnostism, Shintoism, Greek/Roman mythology and plenty others. The main difference between these religions is that Atheists just don't believe there is a being in the sky pulling the strings (Again, raising several questions that I asked). I may know you are a troll, but how DARE you insult another another person's beliefs. There are many philosophers that believe that there is an immortal being YES; however, there are probably equal or more philosophers who say that not only an immortal being does not exist but say that that idealism can lead to cataclysm. Either you shut the fuck up now or you look more like the Abrahamic idiot your making yourself then you already have.

Comment by Michael Burchill on August 30, 2012 at 10:24am

Yo Korey! Did you notice all the ghetto cats in Istanbul? There was kitty fight club in the back alley behind my hotel when I was there. Every night those cats would be howling and beating the shit out of each other. 

Comment by Michael Burchill on August 30, 2012 at 9:28am

Istabul is a cool city... Walking around is like being in a Bond movie... Awesome history - Awesome Architecture - You gotta know how to haggle... Always start at 10% of the offer!

Comment by Louis Nevers on August 30, 2012 at 8:03am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzozSSGETJo&feature=youtube_gdat...

Comment by Virgil Tibbs on August 30, 2012 at 7:00am

@The Black Swordsman:

Why is it wrong to explain phenomena with something you have not demonstrated to exist? Answer(starts at 1:30):

 

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