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Interview with the screenwriter of the Green Arrow movie and why you should be excited about it!
The current title is "Green Arrow: Escape From Super Max" and in it Oliver Queen is unjustly locked up in a federal penitentiary for meta-humans and forced to rely on a whole bevy of villains to make his escape — villains like Lex Luthor, Icicle and even the Joker.
In a recent interview with MTV, screenwriter, Justin Marks, had plenty to say about his upcoming Green Arrow movie.
"It's a very, very awesome prison. I majored in architecture in college, and design is how I actually started in. For 'Super Max,' designing that prison, it had to be the kind of thing that was a character in and of itself," Marks said. "We're in a world where instead of just trying to contain a guy who's really big, you're trying to contain a guy who can — in the case of Icicle — who can freeze things. What kind of a cell would a guy like that need in order to have his powers neutralized? So to escape from Super Max they have got to go through the most elaborate heist we've ever seen, involving superpowers. Because the prison itself kind of has superpowers!"
"What we wanted to do, and I think we'll continue to do as the studio continues to push the movie forward, is to be able to [put Queen] in the center of a much bigger universe," Marks said. "In the same way that Marvel is starting to do, when you're in the [filmed] DC Universe [where] this world and this world and this world — they all exist in an interrelated web. It's the kind of thing that I think absolutely is about spelling out a couple different roads for a couple different characters."
That means Queen won't get a traditional origin story along the lines of Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker. But you wouldn't really want that anyway, Marks asserted.
"By the time a movie like this comes out, we will all understand origin stories. And mainstream audiences now are willing to suspend their disbelief to the point that we can believe that a world exists where superpowers exist and people dress up in costumes. So now what? Now what do we do? And I call this Superhero 2.0," Marks said. "We do deal with his origin — he's got a very interesting origin with a desert island and everything else — but we get to the core of Green Arrow not by showing where he starts but by pushing him into a key moment in his life where everything he has is lost, and he's got to earn it all back. I think for audiences it's going to be a great way to get to know a new character."
Queen himself is the "perfect hero" for this sort of reinvention, Marks said, as he's a B-level super without all the heavy baggage of Batman or Superman. More important, though, he's also a real guy, a mortal without any meta-human skills or weapons, a vigilante who gets by on nothing more than his preternatural intellect and guile. That already makes him less like the silly Golden Age caricatures and more like the reinventions so many writers deem necessary these days.
"I see him as the Jason Bourne of superheroes, a guy who exists with his own sort of set of tricks. And I think the difference between Ollie Queen and a guy like Bruce Wayne — they're both rich. They both have their things. But Batman is about his equipment and is about his theatricality and about his detective skills. And Green Arrow is a guy who's really just the sort of MacGyver type," Marks said. "In his hand, anything can be a weapon."
Yeah, but what about his hot wife, the Black Canary?
As yet, there are no plans for the Black Canary — Oliver Queen’s super-heroine wife — to make an appearance in the film, Marks said, although he remains hopeful that she will eventually be written in.
“I mean, right now he’s in prison. It’s the kind of thing where I know there’s talk of working with her, and she’s obviously a huge part of Ollie’s life and now that they’re married especially,” Marks said. “[But] I don’t know. I don’t know how they’re kind of planning on doing it.”
While Marks is super excited about his new take on Oliver Queen, it’s Black Canary, actually, who ends up losing out the most, he said, given that there’s really very little place for her in the flick even though she’s a wildly important character in the comics.
“I think that’s another unique side to his character - that unlike Bruce Wayne he’s not really the playboy. He’s the guy who has the steady girl who hates his guts and they come in and out of each other’s lives all the time,” Marks said. “There’s a real cool dynamic to having a superhero couple.”
Guess we’ll just have to wait for “Green Arrow 2.”
In a recent interview with MTV, screenwriter, Justin Marks, had plenty to say about his upcoming Green Arrow movie.
"It's a very, very awesome prison. I majored in architecture in college, and design is how I actually started in. For 'Super Max,' designing that prison, it had to be the kind of thing that was a character in and of itself," Marks said. "We're in a world where instead of just trying to contain a guy who's really big, you're trying to contain a guy who can — in the case of Icicle — who can freeze things. What kind of a cell would a guy like that need in order to have his powers neutralized? So to escape from Super Max they have got to go through the most elaborate heist we've ever seen, involving superpowers. Because the prison itself kind of has superpowers!"
"What we wanted to do, and I think we'll continue to do as the studio continues to push the movie forward, is to be able to [put Queen] in the center of a much bigger universe," Marks said. "In the same way that Marvel is starting to do, when you're in the [filmed] DC Universe [where] this world and this world and this world — they all exist in an interrelated web. It's the kind of thing that I think absolutely is about spelling out a couple different roads for a couple different characters."
That means Queen won't get a traditional origin story along the lines of Bruce Wayne or Peter Parker. But you wouldn't really want that anyway, Marks asserted.
"By the time a movie like this comes out, we will all understand origin stories. And mainstream audiences now are willing to suspend their disbelief to the point that we can believe that a world exists where superpowers exist and people dress up in costumes. So now what? Now what do we do? And I call this Superhero 2.0," Marks said. "We do deal with his origin — he's got a very interesting origin with a desert island and everything else — but we get to the core of Green Arrow not by showing where he starts but by pushing him into a key moment in his life where everything he has is lost, and he's got to earn it all back. I think for audiences it's going to be a great way to get to know a new character."
Queen himself is the "perfect hero" for this sort of reinvention, Marks said, as he's a B-level super without all the heavy baggage of Batman or Superman. More important, though, he's also a real guy, a mortal without any meta-human skills or weapons, a vigilante who gets by on nothing more than his preternatural intellect and guile. That already makes him less like the silly Golden Age caricatures and more like the reinventions so many writers deem necessary these days.
"I see him as the Jason Bourne of superheroes, a guy who exists with his own sort of set of tricks. And I think the difference between Ollie Queen and a guy like Bruce Wayne — they're both rich. They both have their things. But Batman is about his equipment and is about his theatricality and about his detective skills. And Green Arrow is a guy who's really just the sort of MacGyver type," Marks said. "In his hand, anything can be a weapon."
Yeah, but what about his hot wife, the Black Canary?
As yet, there are no plans for the Black Canary — Oliver Queen’s super-heroine wife — to make an appearance in the film, Marks said, although he remains hopeful that she will eventually be written in.
“I mean, right now he’s in prison. It’s the kind of thing where I know there’s talk of working with her, and she’s obviously a huge part of Ollie’s life and now that they’re married especially,” Marks said. “[But] I don’t know. I don’t know how they’re kind of planning on doing it.”
While Marks is super excited about his new take on Oliver Queen, it’s Black Canary, actually, who ends up losing out the most, he said, given that there’s really very little place for her in the flick even though she’s a wildly important character in the comics.
“I think that’s another unique side to his character - that unlike Bruce Wayne he’s not really the playboy. He’s the guy who has the steady girl who hates his guts and they come in and out of each other’s lives all the time,” Marks said. “There’s a real cool dynamic to having a superhero couple.”
Guess we’ll just have to wait for “Green Arrow 2.”
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Comment by Nadeau on August 17, 2008 at 6:40pm -
That's what I meant about Wonder Woman being messed up. I don't like the Green Arrow almost as much as Aquaman.
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Comment by Rosa on August 17, 2008 at 1:46pm -
Those worked soely because it catered to people who didn't already have a working knowledge of the series.
People will relate to the green arrow the same way they relate to the batman. The idea of skipping an orgin film and getting right to the punch may or may not hurt the chance of him creating a fan base outside of the fan boy market.
Now you wouldn't like it if I said Flash sucks sweaty monkey balls, you'd be upset so let's not attack the characters. Really, they are the only ones who get hurt in this anyway.
Wonder Woman's orgins aren't messed up, they are too deeply rooted in mythology to work. The thing about mythologies are that they change depending on the point of view. The only messed up thing that is hard to swallow is that you have a greek queen and supposedly the god of the underworld sculpting a girl out of clay on an island without men and isolated from the world: and the diva steps out in an american inspired body suit.
If anything, shouldn't she be in a toga???
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Comment by Nadeau on August 17, 2008 at 10:06am
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So people will be able to relate to a wealthy man who dresses like Robin Hood, and uses a bow and arrow to fight crime today? If Hollywood isn't mature enough to make a Flash movie, then what makes you think the are mature enough to make a Green Arrow movie?
He's a b list character because he sucks and is a rip-off. People will think this is retelling of Robin Hood in the 21st century.
Spiderman and X-Men are very unrealistic and they did well at the movies. So much for that theory. Wonder Woman wouldn't work because her origin is too messed up.
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Comment by spiderbat on August 17, 2008 at 8:33am -
I would like to see how this place out before making a judgement call
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Comment by Clown Baby on August 17, 2008 at 5:18am -
I love green arrow, I love the premiss, but I'm not in love with the title so much...
Maybe "Green Arrow: Break out"...It tells you what the movie is about and it also says this is green arrow's first movie, y'know his "breakout" movie......or something, I don' know...
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Comment by Rosa on August 17, 2008 at 1:49am
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I still have hopes for a green lantern movie, just not in this format. The reason green arrow is a b list character is simply because he keeps his integrity intact. In the comics he's skeptical of batman and superman and he tells him. they upheld that "i dont give a damn, thats stupid you idiots" aspect of him even in the late JLU series.
A flash movie would be filled with one liners and who would his enemy be? Captain Bomerang?! C'mon. Hollywood isn't mature enough to mak a smart flash or wonder woman for that matter in live action. They don't have the same kind of collective love affair required for this. Sure fan boys cry and say do it, but they'll only be disappointed in the end.
Green arrow is ready for the real life treatment because his character is already real. Think Iron man, but with a low key lifestyle and a bow and arrow. If i want to relate to the green arrow, there's an archery range down the street. Iron man? Wolverine?? Wonder freakin woman- stars on my speedos and a tiara??????? You cut off her powers by crossing her wrists over her head . . . S&M. I'd rather this be animated then Hollywood guys dedicating a whole 15 min scence to her being exploited by a sexist, male infested writing staff.
And the not ready applies to the Avengers as well. Iron man, Thor, wolverine captain america???
I don't want to see a captain america! running around in his red white and blue onesie. Making it into a live action would have to mean that the story can be made into something that could happen. The 'maybe' factor is what made the batman and iron man work.
And just because there are more popular a list superheros, doesn't make em more deserving.
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Comment by Andrew on August 16, 2008 at 11:11pm -
I love the premise for this, but the way the prison is put forward, it either sounds like "cube" or a video game where you have to overcome this obstacle (i.e. lava room, ice room, robot room). I'd much rather see an intelligent way of getting out of a normal jail (why is he in a meta-prison if he's not a meta). Also why, work with big names like Joker, Lex Luthor, or the Riddler, unless they are trying to bank off the success of other movies (which when done is never done well -i.e. will this joker, ruin the dark knight joker in terms of quality and continuity).
The way he stated the character sounded good, but he did forget to mention (or it may have been omitted), that a major part of his character is about the bow and arrow (Dude, its his name - are you telling me the prison uniform are going to be green? or if not, he wont be green or use arrows?).
But I think the real charm of Green Arrow (or rather Oliver Queen), is that he is the everyman, He's the one out of all the superheroes who is grounded. If there is a big scene where a cop or cops die, he's the one who goes to the house of their family and tells them, and tough's it out. If there is a chance to stop a bank robbery or pick up the hottie next to him... you know he's thinking "screw that, the police can handle it, now check out that rack"! But most of all if there is a chance for him to tell superman or batman or anyone else, "Go screw yourself", he's the guy to do it.
It could just be I just woke up and still am groggy... but I' much rather see him in an intelligent prison escape than this. But to say something positive about this - I do like that they assume we are intelligent enough not to be spoonfed an origins story in hopes of maintaining a storyline. So I will wait with fingers crossed and hope this will be worth the wait.
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Comment by NightFire on August 16, 2008 at 11:07pm -
I''ll wait for Green Arrow 2
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Comment by Nadeau on August 16, 2008 at 11:03pm
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Green Arrow. A rip off of Robin Hood with communist beliefs. Oh joy. There's a reason why he's a b list comic book character.
The Flash would be a better character to make a movie about.
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Comment by Miley Zor-El on August 16, 2008 at 9:58pm -
Oh please don't put the Joker and Luthor in. That would make for a cool story to comics fans but to Jill Everygal, it would come off as a ripoff, and in the case of the Joker, people would unable to get past Heath Ledger. And everyone is fucking sick of Lex Luthor. If they do it, they should go with some smaller names that aren't headliners for thier own franchises, like Toyman, and Hugo Strange. And is it just me or does this sound like an amazing setting to put Bane into?
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