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Comment by metalraygear on March 19, 2013 at 12:49am

Lost World was off because they deviated from the book for most of the film and the script with that ending, originally it was to be the Petradons (SP) attacking the helicopter, but Speilberg wanted to top what he did in the original (the rex didn't kill the raptors in the book, it was Grant and poisoned dinosaur eggs that did that). 

Now here is the interesting thing about JP3, they cobbled together different elements from the first and second book to plot the film. In the first book there was an Atrium where Grant, Lex and Tim are attacked. Also Grant, Lex, and Tim get on a boat and are attacked by a Juvenile Rex. Lastly the Costa Rican government (i think) destroyed Isla Nublar's dinosaurs at the end of the book... which I guess loosley leads to the ending of JP3. I used to have more examples from the second book, but can't remember them now.

Comment by D.E.S. on March 18, 2013 at 4:58pm

Well, we have the first JURASSIC PARK in 3D to hold us over if and when the sequel comes out. :-/

Comment by ShadowNeverDies on March 18, 2013 at 2:30pm

@DarkSyndicate, there were plenty of inaccuracies in the first film too, these films aren't meant to be science but action adventure films. I mean they took crazy liberties with the Raptors, because it's a fun summer movie at it's core, sure they'll try to make it as true to science as they can but it's a movie made to be entertainment so they'll get stuff wrong not out of laziness but because they think it'll look better.

Comment by Civilized Worm on March 18, 2013 at 7:58am

@DarkSyndicate

Wow, that was, uh...well thought out.

Comment by The GodDamn Fatman on March 18, 2013 at 5:56am

This movie has my curiosity but I haven't really enjoyed a Jurassic Park movie since the first one. I really hope it's good. But it will be hard to recreate that since of wonder the first one gave us. 

Comment by D.E.S. on March 18, 2013 at 3:59am

Ugh, who cares? dinosaurs are for kids anyway.

Comment by DarkSyndicate on March 17, 2013 at 11:31pm

Those are just my complaints about that scene, but I generally, very much agree with you @C @metalraygear and @Lion Heart of Dense Springsteel. Most people who complain about  this movie do not even, nor have to mention that fight scene. The movie in total was just awful and desperate. I just wanted to enlighten people on the facts so they can open their minds to reality.

Comment by DarkSyndicate on March 17, 2013 at 10:25pm

@C

Well actually, I had major issue with the spino/t. rex fight.

Here is the actual footage:

In about ~11secs since both theropod dinosaurs met, the spinosaurus (though a primary piscivore) roars at the t. rex to intimidate which resulted into an even more aggressive approach by the t.rex. T. rexes were proven based on fossil evidence to be very aggressive and even cannibals that were very brazen; taking on massive battle-prey such as ceratopsians. However, within about ~11secs, the t. rex gets the first strike and clamps its jaws on the neck of the spino, and then slams its with a powerful slam. This is major point where Jack Horner's fantasies emphasizes his biasness.

In the movie, the spino somehow lives, but the reality is that just about every paleontologists would see this as false. First off, the teeth of a t.rex were actually ~12in (much larger than what was depicted in Jp3), thick and robust. They were resilient bone smashing teeth that were also able to crush armor. Most experts describe them as "banana teeth" or "railroad spikes", but they were also serrated. In fact, the serrations are described to be like that of a steak-knife. Basically, the wounds caused by t. rex's teeth would be deep, jagged and bone smashing; more than enough to kill the spino.

The jaw strength of t. rex is actually very renown to be the strongest ever known on a land based animal. T. rex had an immensely robust and compacted skull with massive jaws. The original estimates for around the time of the movie ranged from a minimal of 4-6.9tons, which especially with the teeth would be more than enough to kill the  spino. Some paleontologist speculate 8tons or more, but resent studies may suggest even stronger.

Based on more recent studies, it is possible that it could have a bite-force at least 15tons. At 50X stronger than a lion's 1,000 lbs bite-force, it would have a whooping monstrous bite-force of 25tons. That is absolutely an over kill which with the resent or oldest bite-force estimate would allow it to kill just about any large theropod with a single chomp. Yes, a single chomp, and that it because with such a powerful bite force, teeth and skull, it could inflict massive, jagged, wide and deep wounds that would cause excruciating pain and bleed out.

I haven't even mentioned the famous studies on t. rex having an infectious bite. This is based on the cup-like serrations on t. rex's teeth which would hold aging pools of blood from its victims. The pools would then age outside of its mouth, due to its teeth being to big. This is actually different than the komodo dragon theory, as for it is more based on bacteria saliva while t. rex's are based on aging pools of blood and/or bits of meat that aged on the outside of its mouth. This would have been a very effective weapon against prey or rivals.

But besides all of these facts which contradicts this scene, the t.rex also gave the spino a neck shattering slam to the ground... Basically, the t. rex should have won within ~11secs.

The spino snapping necks however was nothing but fiction; never had any scientific bases. The spino in Jp3 was anatomically inaccurate. The arms on the spino were just too large and human-like. Its fingers and hands were too thick with carnosaur claws; spino evidently had slender hands and fingers with long but almost straight claws as expected with piscivore and found on other spinosaurids. The sail was too small and short. The head too thick with nostrils not close enough to its eyes. Legs that looked more like tyrannosaurid legs, rather than spinosaurid.

Here is a more scientifically accurate depiction from the documentary series, 'Planet Dinosaur'

The differences are dramatic.

Comment by ShadowNeverDies on March 17, 2013 at 11:38am

Lost World still felt worse to me because it didn't do anything spectacular and felt soulless where yes the third one had problems but at least it tried new stuff and did a few things right that are better than anything in the second film. And nothing in 3 was as hokey as that damn T-Rex in San Diego...wow. And that's good to hear on the writers, I liked Rise of the Planet of the Apes, although still think it's best to ignore the franchise and just focus on the first planet o f the apes being a perfect one-shot film.

Comment by metalraygear on March 17, 2013 at 7:35am

Shadowneverdies, it's being written by the guys who wrote RotPota.... so it will probably be okay at least. I HATED the third one, it's tonally different than the other two films, has that hokey RAPTOR (Grant hasn't seen a raptor in YEARS but envisions it as what they have evolved into with the feathers and such) talking  to Grant on the plane thing.

The armies and everything at the end betrayed the films premise that there was nobody else who would go to the island. It seemed more like a hokey comedy than scifi. Also the Spinosaurs can rip through a fence with ease but not two doors? Comeon'.

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