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Hey Spill! I really liked both of your reviews of this movie. I can see your points of view very readily, and I really like hearing smart, talented people discuss and critique stories. Here is why I didn't like Batman Begins or The Dark Knight Rises more than "high matinee," speaking as someone who's only seen the movies and Batman: The Animated Series (no knowledge of the comics). First, my favorite things in this trilogy were: Heath Ledger's performance, the music, Bane's voice, the concept of Batman as originally trained in ninjitsu, and the title "The Dark Knight Rises" and the part of the story it refers to. And overall, the films' production quality, acting, etc. were enough that the films achieved the proper feel of a high-register epic. Maybe I'm too picky. But here is my big complaint about this trilogy: Ra's al Ghul and his league's whole plan. I was never sold on there being justice in the destruction of Gotham, despite the screentime showing the terrible corruption in Batman Begins. I never understood the villains' motivations. First, we would all agree that Batman is in the right to protect Gotham. Have you ever read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? God ends up agreeing, in the face of a series of courageous questions from his main man Abraham, to desist from destroying the populace if there are found within at least 10 good people (who would also be destroyed). As a parallel, Wayne says to Ra's al Ghul in the first movie, "there are good people here [in Gotham]." (Let's set aside the supposed "immorality" of what the people were "guilty" of in the biblical story.) In response, Ra's says things against Gotham--things that don't hold water. He makes reference to how his League of Shadows undid Rome and other historic places when they became decadent. He asserts that "justice is balance." But where is the sense of balance in killing men, women, and children without discrimination? Ra's' tries to make a case for indiscriminate mass terrorism on a purely rational basis, and falls flat. If the script is going to have Ra's make a rational case, at least let Ra's say something that almost sounds like it could be right. The drama is severely undercut by this problem. We like to understand the meaning of the conflict for the good guy--and for the bad guy. We even like it when it's not so clear who is good and who is bad. But here with Nolan's films we have simple, straightforward evil doers, who make absolutely no sense. The Joker openly admits to nihilism, and with Ledger in the role that is not a problem for me. But in Batman Begins, my sense of Ra's is that we are supposed to take Ra's as having a cognitive framework as his motivation. And this cognitive dissonance presents more trouble: Ra's is Batman's teacher! He is a sage, par excellence. He provides Wayne with insights into his own pain and psyche--and this part of the script I do like. Ra's teaches Batman about theatricality and deception--another winning part of the script. The fact is that it is incongruous for a sage to also be a moral idiot. If you find that you can't even comprehend Ra's' reasoning, you find yourself confronting a big, ugly plot hole. And with Bane I don't feel that we even got any indications of his motivations. Sure, loyalty and empathy toward Ra's' daughter. But his callous malevolence is the stuff of monsters, and I prefer human beings to monsters in my movies. So, I hope you understand what I have been trying to say. To be clear, I think this trilogy has some rather special virtues and is highly watchable.
Just got done seeing this movie and man is it overrated! I mean if you who reads this like it good for you but as a true Batman/ Action fan this put me to sleep literally! I mean to me and this movie was boring long as hell and dry in the action department. The only thing that woke me up was when Bane broke Batman's back and Anne Hathaway's fine ass but other then that this movie was just thrown together like how Spiderman 3 was. Speaking of Spiderman that reboot was worth watching then this movie and I would never say no shit like that so you know this movie was shitty. Now im not no fanboy Christopher Nolan dick rider like most people I see giving this movie the benefit of the doubt cuz after seeing The Dark Knight there is no excuse for this movie to be this lame. Oh and can someone tell me why Bane sound white or European instead of how he sound in Arkham City?! Oh and why is the dude that played Scarcrow in the first movie in this one but not playing the same role?! Why is Ru's daughter in a prison hole in the ground with Bane and why is Batman fighting like he did in the first two movies?! You been gone 8 years and still fighting like a srub! How can people say they are fans of Batman and got nerves to say this movie is better then sex when I rather get my knob polished then waste 10 bucks or more seeing this at the movie! Thats why I got the 3 dollar bootleg of it lol! Yeah but the people that worship this movie really need to look at this shit again. take yo thumb out of yo ass andreally watch this movie cuz compared to The Dark Knight and how much time they had to make this movie it could've and should've been fucking amazing like Spiderman and the Avengers! Damn I can't believe im saying this about 3rd and final movie and giving fucking Marvel movies a good rating and looking at this movie like a redheaded step child! Hopefully Superman stay true to Superman and not no made up shit like they did with Bane and Robin on this Movie. If you can't stay true to the comics and novels then don't put it on the big screen cuz people was dying to see this shit and lost they life when they could've stayed home and waited for a movie worth seeing like The Man Of Steel! Nolan Please don't fuck Superman up like you did the last Batman! Thank you and don't forget people just my own opinion so if you don't like it then flash yo bat signal and call someone who gives a fuck cuz I don't! The Dark Knight Rises is wack and can suck deez nut sack Lmao!
The film has many noticable plot holes, but yeah, the ending or how Nolan planned to end it really just sums it all up as an excellent trilogy. But the film alone, I would give it a Low Full Price because of the plot holes. But still Better than Sex Trilogy
I thought is was just as good as The Avengers. The script was brilliant, the acting was phenomenal and the climax in the story blew my mind. As expected the direction was excellent and Hans Zimmer's music is still amazing. I thought the Characters had more meaning then before and even though Bane was not nearly as memorable as the Joker he deffinately left a spine tingling impression in each scene he was in. Overall this Film was not as good as the Dark Knight, but It is still amazing and I truly believe that Christopher Nolan truly reinvented the world of Batman.
The Dark Knight Rises was SO WORTH waiting 221 hours to see because in my opinion it was the most perfect, hugly entertaining and emotional conclusion to a Superhero trillogy since Spider-Man 3.
I thought the screenplay written by Christopher Nolan, David S. Goyer and Jonathan Nolan was fantastic, the acting performances by Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Tom Hardy, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Anne Hathaway, Marion Cotillard, Morgan Freeman and Michael Caine were excellent.
Christopher Nolan´s directing was incredible, the action scenes were epic and exciting the best best I have seen since The Avengers and as always Hans Zimmer creates and composes some awesome and epic music for The Dark Knight Rises.
I also liked the great message in The Dark Knight Rises which is about Batman and the cops of Gotham City learning to get the coruage to do the right thing during hard times no matter what Bane or the other people of the city thought of them.
Overall I think The Dark Knight Rises is the best movie of 2012.
I give The Dark Knight Rises 5 out of 5 stars and I hope you enjoy The Dark Knight Rises.
The movie needed nipples LOL J/K
The only problem with the Arkham City idea is that you'd have to get a Heath Ledger look-alike to appear for at least a few seconds as The Joker or people will gripe about plot holes and a lack of continuity from TDK.
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