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Allan, Dane of Thrones posted a statusWith summer being a very busy time for us here at Spill.com there are some things that get lost in the shuffle. Awhile back we promised that we'd do an in depth discussion on Prometheus, especially since I wasn't in on the review. We did follow through on that promise - we just never posted the audio. So for those who doubted it ever happen here's our Spoiler filled discussion on Prometheus.
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Comment by dream_the_sandman on November 22, 2012 at 9:09pm
Comment by Nightmayor on July 24, 2012 at 11:59am I think that the Engineers were creators that lost control of their creations. An while the Aliens are dangerous. The saw Mankind with its ability to create as well as being an even greater threat. So they sought to destroy us if we ever acquired space travel with instructions to a facility that would destroy us.
I thought that Weyland was under the opinion that the Engineers would be benevolent and would immediately take pity on him. Cryosleep or Stasis isn't immortality, Its longevity. Ripley went into Stasis for 57 years however she did age. (the 7years it took to make the sequel) With that in mind maybe the doctors of earth told him he could exist another 2-3 years in stasis. Enough time to get to the planet but not enough to wait for the Prometheus to get back. A desperate dying man can't wait. So he went along in hope of a cure sooner.
Man, Co-host just confused me more than this film did with his long-ass explaination at the end.
Comment by Jelly on July 12, 2012 at 3:48pm
Comment by DaveTheBrave on July 12, 2012 at 2:04pm Thank you guys so much for doing this discussion!!!!!!!!
That being said, I think Korey and Cyrus are being really, really hard on this. I totally agree with Co-Host and Leon that the plot "problems" with this film are totally explainable with a little thought, and like Leon I was processing and making conjecture about the backstory as the movie went along (although I am a big ALIEN fan). The problems with character motivations are justifiable, and the only failing I found with the film.
****The central theme of Prometheus (which I think Korey and Cyrus miss) is creation and destruction, which I feel is a perfect metaphor for the xenomorph since it is born from the death of its host. Creation motifs are all over the film in obvious to less obvious forms: Shaw’s infertility, consistent references to religion, the black bile creating hyper-aggressive life, the hall of alien murals, Weyland's obsession with death, and all the various issues raised by the “artificial person” David. The question you are left with at the end of the movie is magnificent: "They (the Engineers) created us and then they decided to kill us. I want to know why!"
--> My theory about the maps and the Engineers' motives is that the Engineers recognized humanity’s ingenuity and destructive potential, which would obviously frighten them enough to destroy it. The star maps left on Earth were an insurance policy: should humanity advance far enough that it could accomplish interstellar travel, then humans would be led to the facility. If humans had evolved to a rational level then they would recognize the destructive potential of the black bile and leave; on the other hand, if they had remained hostile and warlike then the weaponry on the planet would surely wipe them out (just as the Weyland-Yutani Company attempts to do with the xenomorphs, although they are thwarted by the sacrifice of Ripley, a rational and decent human being).
The fact that you guys felt compelled to even HAVE this discussion proves the point that this movie, while it may not be brilliantly philosophical, still effectively explores great philosophical themes; rather like Inception and The Matrix were blockbusters that made people think about reality and perception. I am so glad that Ridley Scott chose to return to this series, and I hope they make this a trilogy!
Comment by Mike Salcedo on July 9, 2012 at 10:21pm THE BLACK GOO:
The black goo didn't just do "what the script needed it to" like Cyrus said (no rudeness intended). It just makes you the weapon version of yourself. It gave Noomi Rapace's boyfriend Zombie dick, so when he put his infected seed inside of her infertile womb, it created a weapon version of her miracle baby; meaning SHE became the FIRST ORGANISM to do an Alien-style gut bust.
Noomi Rapace is the mother of all "GUT-BUSTING" Aliens because black goo wasn't ever linked to birthing belly babies. Anything before HER pregnancy was Zombie-style, like the worms or the on-fire guy with the gross head.
This means that the Xenomorph at the end of the film would have to somehow later get to LV426 in order to birth the eggs from "Alien", possibly at the expense of the Engineers on that ship. That's the only way I see Noomi Rapace being the direct mother of the Xenomorphs.
Oh snap, maybe because she's the momma and an Engineer is the pappa, that makes the Xenomorph like symbolism-Jesus: the product of God and his Creation (the human Virgin Mary).
Comment by Mike Salcedo on July 9, 2012 at 10:20pm THEORY:
I think that humans were created as weapons just as much the black goo was. The difference is that humans were created in "god's own image" (modeled off of the engineers themselves). The problem with making weapons based on intelligent organisms is that they can build their OWN weapons and become unruly.
Then HUMANS built robots in THEIR own image and looked what happened. David can be as threatening to humans as humans can be to the engineers. The relationship between David and his creators (humans) will straight up parallel the relationship between humans and THEIR creators (Engineers).
@Carrot
You're being extremely rude.
Comment by manton harding on July 9, 2012 at 10:48am
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