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In honor of Meryl Streep winning the Oscar for Best Actress for her performance in "The Iron Lady"...um, actually that was one of the few Oscar wins that I violently disagreed with this year...
I don't know how many of you have had a chance to see HAYWIRE or read 'Jennifer Blood' but the'yre at the top of my recommendations.
Also, hot off of their world tour and appearance on the Conan O'Brien Show, our friends from THE INTERGALACTIC NEMESIS will be stopping by.
Remember, if you're anywhere near the Austin area this weekend you should come to the Staple! Independent Media Expo where you can see The Intergalactic Nemesis and Master Pancake Theater perform, meet some of the best indie comics creators in the business and hangout with random LEOGers.
Okay, hit us with your questions.
Just thought I'd throw out there in case no one had mentioned them yet, River Tam from Serenity (Summer Glau), Selene from Underworld (Kate Beckinsale), Ramona Flowers from Scott Pilgrim (Mary Elizabeth Winstead) and Lisbeth Salander from the original Girl w the Dragon Tattoo (Noomi Rapace, not that other bitch)
I am genuinely curious as to why Sucker Punch is seen as sexist and demoralizing to women, instead of being seen as another heroine movie. To me is was just a culture mash movie that yes, had an abysmal script outside the fantasy sequences, but I never thought it took the leap from women finding a way to fight an oppressive life to sex with guns in the way. Thanks and may the LEOG eventually have a counter LEOL.
LONG LIVE THE LEAGUE!
It seems to me that "Iron ladies" are becoming more popular in cartoons, what are some of your favorite examples. Mine would have to be ALL the female characters in 'avatar the last air bender' all had great story arcs and some of the females were in fact stronger than the male characters. Also sandy from SpongeBob SquarePants if that counts :P
Hey League! It's been a while. :)
My question is thus: There is a lot of debate over whether certain female characters depicted as "strong" are simply written as dudes with boobs. There was an earlier question by CH Gorog about how tough women can maintain their femininity, but I think the issue reaches deeper than that. Do themes that are associated with women have to be integrated into strong female characters in order to stamp that character as female? An example being the maternal aspect which was worked into Ellen Ripley's character in Alien.
Also on the Dudes With Boobs bent, do you think it's just our own cultural stereotypes that associate assertiveness and aggression with men that cause us to slap the DWB moniker on a female character when she shows those traits, or is it something else?
Sorry for the long read, but hope it gives some good material for discussion.
LONG LIVE THE LEAGUE!!
Dear the lady Kat,
This is a question I am interested in from a historical standpoint and though that you might know something about. What was the first novel that had a woman as the protagonist. I've recently been turned onto this as a sub-genre of Science Fiction because for English this year we had to read the Handmaids tale and I'm sure that something similar to it must have been written before the 1980's. Anyway thanks for the help long live the league, and all that nonsense.
This one is for the gamers of Leog, let's talk about the Asari, that should go off on a nice long tangent. Mass Effect has plenty of kick Ass Females for a lengthy leog tangent.
Looking back at 2011 we see that The Iron Lady represented one of the most hard-working women who ever lived, but we also saw Sucker Punch: a film that claimed to be about female empowerment but ultimately treated them as nothing but sex objects.
My question is what other examples do you think there has been where a director/writer/cast has claimed a character(s) to be empowering but they are ultimately wrong.
For the Irish in the room, With the Ulster Cycle’s Cattle Raid Of Cooley coming to the big screen the world will be introduced to some ancient Iron Ladies. How would you handle their transition to the big screen
In the leagues opinion are create your own characters in RPGs such as mass effect, SWTOR good or bad examples of Iron ladies as the role is basically sexless.
what are some overlapping characteristics or themes of strong female heroines/movies.
thanks and as always LONG LIVE THE LEAGUE!