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Comment by Frizzlestick 1 hour ago

Yeah, Paul McGann is the 8th Doctor and was only featured in a really bad TV movie from the 90's when Fox teamed up with the BBC to try to resurrect the series before Davies did.  It's...not good.  Eric Roberts is the Master...who is also... a snake?  The only silver-lining was McGann's Doctor and a spiffy looking Tardis interior.  After that, he was in a bunch of audio dramas that got the 8th Doctor a sizable fanbase before the restart.  I would've loved to seen some acknowledgment for a fan-favorite who only had one instance of screen-time.

I don't think Hurt will be a numbered Doctor.

Comment by Rachel Kolb 1 hour ago

McGann unfortunately only got to play the Doctor in that terrible 1996 movie. He's an enjoyable actor, but the movie I've heard is pretty bad.

Comment by Rachel Kolb 1 hour ago

8th Doctor was Paul McGann. I think John Hurt is the man the Doctor was before he became "The Doctor."

Comment by Dr. Detfink 1 hour ago

Is John Hurt the 8th Doctor?

Comment by Frizzlestick 2 hours ago

*spoilers*

It was a pretty neat way to start things off, with having the First Doctor urging Susan into a Tardis only to be caught by Clara.  Even Rachel agreed though, where was the love for the 8th Doctor?

Comment by Dr. Detfink 4 hours ago

One final comment on the Great Gatsby.

I thought it did a nice job highlighting all the fundamental points of the book without over playing its hand or force feeding fan service (BTW did any fan boy demanded Fan service in any remake or retread?).

For me, the Great Gatsby was that tragic feeling I get every time I walk past Bo Concept. At first I'm over powered by the sophistication of Danish furniture. Then the sinking reality of over paying for a $5000 couch, cramming it into a small space, and not realizing that all the upkeep of the leather means I'd be better off NEVER sitting on it. In many ways, that's the tragedy of the American dream. 

Comment by Dr. Detfink 4 hours ago

The great thing about any Who-vian discussion, it'll inspire you to meticulously and constantly try to comb each and every episode for the last 40 years looking for ONE paradox that ties it all together. The problem is, it can be headache inducing. In many ways, Doctor Who is its best friend/worst enemy because time travel is that complex of a magic trick where the Prestige will amaze you or disgust you. 

I must admit, the Name of the Doctor did catch me off-guard. I was anticipating Moffat found some ingenious plot hole through all the doctors to tie Clara in so he could say, "Who's the man now Sherlock?" Alas, it was more of a Forrest Gump explanation. 

Now that didn't mean I didn't like the episode, it just means the jury is out because it seemed like Moffat was using this revelation as just the beginning of the next major arc. The only problem with that is..what you just said, waiting...Sigh. 

Alex Kingston (the Croupier) is class. Never a bad cameo with River Song. I enjoyed how Moffat always saved her for moments that counted most. 

Comment by Frizzlestick 7 hours ago

I support any project involving the Hound.

Still haven't seen Iceman, but based on the trailer and from what I'm reading here, it'll go on up to the top of my list.

The general press has been so blah this short into summer.  I've already vented my feelings on how utterly they failed to even give Luhrmann a chance, deciding before the movie even released to take him to task for their grievance that they're not allowed to enjoy Moulin Rogue or his previous work because the internet said so.  I don't know how to explain it anymore.  Is the cynicism that feeds the internet in the days of reddit finally hitting a breaking point?

Oh... and yes, that finale killed it for me.  Wow, there was almost zero "story" in Name of the Doctor, but the character work was something.  The scene with the Doctor and River had me tearing up.  I hope we see Kingston again, as I always love cameos from River, but that felt like the right time to bid Professor River Song farewell.

Moffat typically has a problem with providing a good villain and that doesn't change here.  Richard Grant just manages to take what little there was and make it work.  I feel the biggest failing in what the Great Intelligence was trying to accomplish is that to do something that extreme would require a hatred few bad-guys harbor for the Doctor.  He should've been a secret threat in every episode, working behind the Doctor's back to cause him to fail.  Lacking that really sells short the severity of his overall plan.

That being said, I still did enjoy it. Madame Vastra, Jenny, and (especially) Strax continue to be some of the most fun side-characters in the Doctor's life.  Considering how much they've helped in the dark times following the loss of the Ponds, I was pleased to see the Doctor willing to finally pay them back for all the time they were there when he needed them.

But that final shot... oh god that final shot.  Marvelous, simply marvelous.  That is a haunting shot of the "Doctor: with his back turned.  I think it's a brilliant decision on Moffat's part to make the name of the Doctor simply more than just a name.  

God, November can not come fast enough!  That's a good set-up for the 50th, in fact, that's what this episode really was, the one-hour prelude to the massive Doctor Who event.

I also have to randomly add that I do believe that it won't be the 10th Doctor involved in the 50th Anniversary, but rather the human 10th that is with Rose.

Is it November yet!?!?

Comment by Dr. Detfink 10 hours ago

Btw I want to start a kick starter called, "The Dark Knight LAUGHS at the Red God, starring the Hound aka the Black Kight of Westeros." :)

Comment by Dr. Detfink 10 hours ago

You can DO that ending without essentially following that uninspired book end story-telling style repeated on Domino, Carlito's Way in a round about fashion....irregardless of a true story (and boy don't the movies embellish that bullshit) there's ALWAYS a fresh way to skin a cat.

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