wich movie has the biggest plothole

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Permalink Reply by HaveYouFoundFSM? on June 8, 2009 at 7:44pm

Probably Independence Day, with the obvious "I can load a virus onto an Alien computer using a Mac" problem.

Granted, I'm one of the few who really like the movie despite the hole.

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Permalink Reply by Hiphop-popatomus on September 15, 2009 at 6:13pm

That's a big obvious problem because the aliens were using PC instead of Macs.

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Permalink Reply by MDS on June 8, 2009 at 8:08pm

Any movie that relies on "Time-travel" to tell a complete story.... yes, even the Terminator franchise.

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Permalink Reply by Lab Rat on June 8, 2009 at 8:29pm

Would you place Primer among these?

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Permalink Reply by MDS on June 9, 2009 at 9:39pm

Yes, I would.

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Permalink Reply by HaveYouFoundFSM? on June 9, 2009 at 1:19pm

Meh, I thought the new Star Trek movie used it pretty well.

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Permalink Reply by Timmy Cupcakes on June 9, 2009 at 1:21pm

Thought Back to the Future used it even better!

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Permalink Reply by Guitaro Man on June 9, 2009 at 3:34pm

That's because Doc had his FLUX CAPACITOR!

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Permalink Reply by SquiddlyInkFish on September 20, 2009 at 11:45am

Back to the future screwed it up the most, in my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by MDS on June 9, 2009 at 9:40pm

You can use it "well", but it's going to still leave a huge plot hole that can't be overlooked. Even with Star Trek, he goes back in time... but doesn't that automatically give him the potential to ADVERT the disaster without having to go out for revenge? I know that I would try for 20 years to change SOMETHING enough to save my planet before I started hunting people down.

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Permalink Reply by Stephan on June 12, 2009 at 12:51am

Well, you can explain away with the prospect of him cracking after his entire planet was destroyed and being totally insane and incapable of rational thought.

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Permalink Reply by The Eyeball Kid on September 13, 2009 at 2:37pm

Does it automatically give the potential to avert the disaster? No. It takes place in a new timeline (parallel universe, alternate dimension, whatever). The actions of the characters shape the current timeline without affecting the original timeline they came from.

They actually state this explicitly in the film. Kirk suggests that they behave unpredictably to exploit Nero's knowledge of the future and catch him off-guard. Someone else corrects him that Nero has no knowledge of the future, because he comes from an alternate timeline in which none of this happens.

The Romulans in this timeline can still survive (and Spock Prime probably ensures that they do), but that doesn't change the fact that Nero's family died in his universe. Nothing that Nero does can prevent that from happening, because it already happened. In the future. It's all very simple really.


I'd also contend that if you ignore the sequels, The Terminator manages time travel without any plotholes. It only works, however, if you accept the theory of determinism and reject the existence of free will. Same goes for Harry Potter & The Prisoner Of Azkaban.

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