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Permalink Reply by ThaShining on April 7, 2009 at 5:54pm

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Permalink Reply by ThaShining on April 7, 2009 at 5:43pm

How is it a losing battle? Your point is that Superman's (aka The Boyscout as Batman calls him) brute strength and speed makes him better. I just proven to you unequivocally that Batman was better and have the facts to prove it. Has nothing to do with his Villains. Superman has been defeated many times and will continue to be so if he fucks with Batman. Who Superman's bitch-ass is afraid of. LoL

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Permalink Reply by ThaShining on April 7, 2009 at 5:58pm

LoL. Ok man. To each his own. I don't see how my life is getting worst by continuing a debate? LMAO You just don't stop with the Jokes

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Permalink Reply by Matt on April 7, 2009 at 5:59pm

Superman is a better character, The Death of Superman arc is the best thing DC has ever published.

And all the sups ongoings are great, where as, all Batman great stories are all limited series/graphic novels, and his ongoings are complete shit.

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Permalink Reply by Casspian on April 8, 2009 at 9:34am

Easy answer - neither.

I bet anyone here can come up with a counter argument for their own choice as to who is better. Why? Because Batman and Superman represent the fundamental, dichotomous character traits of the modern superhero.

With the Big Blue, it's the Man is God metaphor. Why does someone with all the power in the world still choose to do the right/heroic thing? 'With great power comes great responsibility' - to steal a line from Uncle Ben.

As for Bats, he represents humankind's indomitable will and resilience. The notion that a person can suffer one of life's great tragedies and use it to motivate them to do good works instead of letting it mess them up irrevocably speaks to everyone.

Then again, Supes fights talking apes and Bats - for all his practicality - hasn't offed the Joker even though this clearly is the ultimate solution.

What we should all be asking is why is Batman and Superman better than Wonder Woman? ;)

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Permalink Reply by Ozma of Oz on April 8, 2009 at 2:54pm

Crap, this is hard! See, here's the thing. I like both superheroes because they both rock in different ways but then you have different personalities in their hero form and their secrect idenity form.

As for me, I have always been madly in love with Superman with a little girl and I feel like you really can't go wrong with him. He's a great charecter who is well liked by adults and kids as well. I think I like him more too because he always makes sure he doesn't over do it. He knows he has super human powers and he has to keep them in check.

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Permalink Reply by Gift of the Magi on April 11, 2009 at 6:02pm

To me, it comes down to a few factors.

One, the reason for Why They Fight The Good Fight.

Batman: Became a hero because he was unable to defend his parents at eight tears old, from a gunman. The trauma from that moment has carried on into his adult life. He developed his mind and body to battle against crime, using his fortune and an image designed to terrorize others.

Superman: The lone (for a while. Yes I know about New Krypton.) survivor of a highly advanced race. He was raised by a farming couple in Kansas, taught basic family values and morals, and then discovered at his coming-of-age his true heritage. Along with a plethora of abilities. Basically a demigod, he could easily become a villian or simply not involve himself with the affairs of human. Instead, he desides to help them in any way he can, to become a symbol of hope to all mankind.

Winner: Superman. Batman feels like he has no choice but to become the Dark Knight, because he can't handle his own damage otherwise. Superman DECIDED to become a hero, to be humble and good, to become an icon.

Two, villians. All good superheroes need a reason to battle. A nemesis to equate the opposite aspects of their character and purpose. The more powerful and capable the villian, the harder thehero must struggle to win and prove his mettle

Batman: For the most part, Bat's rogues live in Gotham and have few if any abilities. Often with a bizarre gimick, his bad guys and girls are at his own level. Human, skilled, with a simple name...and rarely operate outside the city. Most have similar damage to Batman. His most well-known is the Joker, a crazed psycho with a chemically altered apparence. Now there have been a few stories where the Joker threatens the world at large, but these are rare and often easily put down.

Superman: Same here, but Capeboy often has to battle villian of a global or even cosmic level. Luthor is definately a global threat, a villian so good he often convinces governments and people to follow him, EVEN WHEN THEY KNOW HE'S A VILLIAN! For a global threat, you can select beings like Darksied. Yes, ThaShining, Batman once dodged the Omega Beam....but Superman has been hit by them and kept going. Bats knows he has no chance against Darksied one-on-one. And if you've been reading, Bats is currently under the effect of the Omega Mandate, not Supes (so far)

Winner: Superman. Joker is the coolest villian around, but unless you live in Gotham you're not too worried about him. Luthor,however......

Three, morals. Yes, morals. I still believe superheroes are to teach us the better part of ourselves. That there is always a way for good to trimuph. That if you work hard enough, you can and will find a way to win.

Batman: This guy has survived a shitstorm of trauma and grief. His parents, lovers, Robins, friends. People shot, stabbed, beated, blown up, crippled and even once eaten. And at last, losing his mind and his cowl. Batman is a survivor of the first order. He shows you can survive anything and if you use your brains and guts there is nothing you can't do. If you're loaded and have had 15-20 years of spuer-intense training and several allies. I do question his continued 'lone wolf' mentality, especial since he often asks for the help of those same people he brushes off.

Superman: He lost his people, his culture, his identity, and even his adopted father. He has been alone among humanity for a long time, til he found his cousin...andeven then he never felt a true part of her life. He made Clark Kent in part to hide him and in part because he sees human like Clark....weaker and occasially smaller. And he's right. I say this now, Superman is NOT stupid! He can understand, repair and build Kryptonian technology...which is several centuries past us. Even Batman is not near the expert he is...and Supesdid not grow up lwith it. He had to learn it. His values are simple. Protect, defend, help and ask for nothing. He wears a bright costume to be seen. He could easily kill and destory, but goes out of his way not to...and still manages to win.

Winner: Close, but Superman

Overall? Superman.

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Permalink Reply by Jay Perry on June 1, 2009 at 2:02pm

good post.

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Permalink Reply by Jay Perry on June 1, 2009 at 2:04pm

I like both,and one's not better then the other.Their both great for diffenent reason's.I like batman,but i'll go with superman.I don'y alway's like batman's comics,but i've never seen a superman comic that I didn't like.

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Permalink Reply by DJLatinoHeatC2 on June 1, 2009 at 8:41pm

pretty sure batman is better cuz he has totally kicked Superman's ass ( plus all he has to do is have kryptonite on his person to stop supes from even touching him), is a much better character, cooler villains, better books, and bats isnt a naive boy scout. And his supporting cast is better ( Jimmy, louis and supergirl vs batgirl, nightwing, robin, huntress, oracle, and red robin (tim drake)

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Permalink Reply by Brock on June 1, 2009 at 8:46pm

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Permalink Reply by ThaShining on June 2, 2009 at 3:12am

Just what I've been trying to tell these losers!
Batman wins, Superman loses, and as always Gotham prevails!

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