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What was the better tv show Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Angel?

I read about the Buffy remake here on Spill and noticed, there's a lot of Buffy fans here, so I'wondering what show do you like more, Buffy or Angel?

I say Angel, just due to it being more fun and not always dragging out the idea that women are better than men in every way possible, it's cool if they think that but just make a cool show and put your manifesto in sparsely and not almost every epidode. But I have to say Buffy's Hush episode is one of my favorite hours of television.

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Yeah, there are no wrong opinions but you're wrong and you should feel bad. If you don't like one of those shows you're a waste of human skin.

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David, are you talking to me or Scarie 187?

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lmao

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Angel. It had a slow first season, but once it got going, Angel did such a good job of fleshing out the Buffyverse. On one hand, rehashing over old characters seemed kinda corny at the time it was on TV, it was only because I wasn't watching it from episode to episode. If a old character was going to join, there was always a good reason why they were there. Not just characters, but old ideas get revisited in new ways. Ideas regarding demons are changed, as we can't assume they are all evil anymore. Old characters become stronger than ever, with Cordy, Wesley, and even Harmony growing into very real people, from their 2d origins. Angelus still proves to be the most evil thing any of them have ever encountered.
And seeing Angel consciously make the wrong choice, like when he locks up the W&H crew in the wine cellar, or tries to kill a in critical condition Wesley, are some of the best, and most rare moments for a hero on television.
Don't get me wrong, love Buffy, but Angel took the already good Buffyverse, and made it better.

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Tottaly agree with you. As Mark Conner said without Buffy there would be no Angel but it was Angel that gave the characters you mentioned their voice. In Buffy Wesley was a fool. Look how he turns out in Angel. I never thought I would see Wesley become the chracter he did.

This is whyI think Angel is better. He's a flawed hero. Those two examples you bring up he did as Angel, as the hero. A brave thing to do for sure. That would run the risk of turning many off of Angel. I loved it though. lol

And Angelus was the MAIN villain. Wish we could have seen more of him. I would loved to have seen Angelus return in Season five and go after Spike. Spike vs Angelus. That would have been soooo good to see. Who would win? lol.

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You back from holiday? Anyway, I like Spike.... Buffy did mess him up.

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Uh yeah. We spoke last week remember?

Yeah that Buffy was a total cow to him... lol

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I'll have to ask my wife, she has seen both series multiple times. But, there wouldn't have been Angel without Buffy. I can say that my favorite episode from the two series came from Angel, the Puppet episode was fuckin' hilarious. You're a bloody puppet. Spike was much more fun in Angel.

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That was an all time classic. Got to admit that I wasn't a fan of seeing Spike joining the team at first. Would even go as far to say it was retarted as hell. But it was this ep and others that changed my mind on him.

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That's one of the many cool things about Angel it made okay characters cool as hell. I wish Xander could've switched over to Angel instead of losing his eye continuing to be a pretty ineffective character, the Buffy show really dealt him a shit hand.

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I know. What was the point of that? lol. I loved the Caleb character though. The evil preist who did it to him. But man... why? lol

I'm almost tempted to say Xander wouldn't 't fit in Angel. But I said the excat same thing about Wesley to a mate. As we now know, I was wrong on that one. lol

So now I wonder what kind of badass Xander would have turned out to be? Least we'd still have both his eyes...

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Xander lost an eye but the fans gained a Nathan Fillion performance. Fair trade I guess.

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