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Superman died and even that couldn't save him. He's washed up. Superman returns sucked like a Hoover. Every movie has Lex Luthor ( is that misspelled?) he doesn't do shit. Superman has all these powers but no one to use them on. He has no villain to just wail on for two comics then come back to do it again. Doomsday's OK but not that interesting.

The Christopher Reeves movies did well because no one made any other heroes we have mavel with spider-man, Iron Man, and The avengers. We all know DC has a mush better hero to look up to.

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DC has outright stated Morrison will handle his return... so yeah. They wouldn't even let people sweat over it for a week.

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Supermans non-reaction makes that picture hilarious out of context.

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And here's a picture for you...

And I hope you're joking about Batman being able to defeat the Hulk.

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no I'm not joking...

That picture is living breathing proof that Batman is the ultimate superhero because (I've said this before and i'll say it again) Intelligence can beat strength no matter what. Intelligence is the most powerful thing anyone could possess.

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So you really believe Batman is capable of knocking the wind out the Hulk with a just a kick?

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Depends on how angry the hulk is.

Since the more angry he gets, the more stronger he gets. If Batman was fighting him at a level where Hulk wasn't very angry ( Much like in the comic shown ) just pissed. Then a strong kick in the right place calculated to a point of perfection would knock the wind outta him.

But since Batman is the greatest martial artiest in the DC universe he could probably dodge 90% of the hulks punches until he finds Hulk's weakness then use that against him.

It all depends on the time, the place, and the writer on who would win.

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Even at the level of being just pissed, the Hulk can still take a kick delivered by a regular human. I know you like Batman and all, but your worship of him is a little bit overboard.

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I don't worship batman, I do think that there are other superheros/supervillians who could easily take down Batman...

Dr. Manhattan
Lobo
Darkseid


Hell I even think the Joker could take him down only he doesn't want to.

However I think that people who thinks characters like the Hulk and Superman are the most powerful people in the world and are invincible and unbeatable are even more overboard. Much like a real fight, it all depends on which character gets lucky and throws the winning punch.

Let's face it Batman has always had a winning streak by putting the luck in his favor. Every fight he has, he creates a plan on taking him down the enemy that only has a 10% chance of being possible and it's always a long shot, but ends up working out of pure luck.

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There's no way Batman can throw a winning punch against the Hulk, lucky or otherwise. And I never said the Hulk was unbeatable, but you did say in your earlier reply that nobody could beat Batman.

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A LUCKY winning punch, like I said Every fight he has, he creates a plan on taking him down the enemy that only has a 10% chance of being possible and it's always a long shot, but ends up working out of pure luck.

True I did say that, but that's before I was putting rational thought into it. And when I think about it. Batman can pretty much beat any normal person with superpowers (Like Superman or the Hulk) out of his Planning, luck, and martial arts skills. Mainly because unlike Superman, Batman fights Dirty. And Unlike the Hulk, Batman has twice the brainpower and doesn't let his emotions cloud his fighting.

The only ones who could take down Batman are people who have supernatural powers, are unpredictable, and doesn't hang around Batman very much.
yeah cant ditch the costume. oh and that pic about superman vs batman invokes the idea that superman already knowing that batman has the ring and rock fragment would just walk right up and let him show it to him, plus the lead suit he has would negate that for the second it would take to burn a hole between
batmans eyes, batman is after all just human, a great human but not a kryptonian.

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I think Supes is okay.

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