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has anybody else noticed that allot of hip hop songs uses beats or lyrics from old songs if you have tell me lets get a list my example is stan by eminem listen to it and you'll know what i mean
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Permalink Reply by The Gaming King on -
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Permalink Reply by ▲UltraK.I.D.™▽ on -
lol, It's called sampling something which Hip Hop is heavily based on ....back in the day Hip Hop completely revolved around samples to the point where producers where using at least 3 or 5 samples on one track so I'm not going to sit here & go through the credits of my favorite Hip Hop songs so I can post em up here, I don't have that much time on my hands.
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Malcolm Maclaren - Buffalo Gals. Goes like this - "Two buffalo gals go round the outside, round the outside, round the outside" I'd say Eminem ripped that one off.
Fred Durst (Limp Bizkit) was notorious for stealing lines from old school rappers.
It usually isn't the whole tune, but they sample the catchy parts. They even do this with 80s hits like Every Breath You Take and You Spin Me 'Round
Rappers do this all the time. If something was a hit before, it's a sure bet that it will be a hit again. So much for originality.
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Permalink Reply by ▲UltraK.I.D.™▽ on
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Sampling is an art form and it takes a great ear to know how to flip a record the way Hip Hop producers do it ....If I were to give you an MPC and told you to flip a record I highly doubt you would be able to make a highly quality beat.
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Sampling isn't an art form if you are taking it from something that already exists. It's called "ripping off" what someone else CREATED. If you can't create your own samples, then you aren't really an artist.
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Permalink Reply by The Gaming King on
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See, I think you're right and wrong. You're right in the case that sometimes and that's being lazy and you're just ripping something. However, I think you're wrong in the case that saying sampling isn't an art form. If you can make the samples you have and make it sound nothing like it did before, then I do think that takes a lot of work and deserves the title of art form. Take DJ Shadow for example. He makes entire albums composed out of samples of really obscure shit, and gives it its own unique sound.
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I didn't exactly say it wasn't an art form. I should have stated it differently. What I mean is that when someone reuses a sample that someone else already used, it isn't exactly art to me. No one can tell me that some of these guys aren't selective with what they pick. If it was once a hit, it's sure to be again. Do I believe that someone can create samples? Yes I do. I respect that. If this didn't occur then half of the songs wouldn't exist. I'm referring to the blatant ones such as Missy Elliot's Work it sampling from RUN/DMC's peter Piper. That's just reused because it's catchy. Nothing new created.
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Permalink Reply by The Gaming King on
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Ohhhhhh, now I see what you mean.
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Permalink Reply by ▲UltraK.I.D.™▽ on
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It's called being a producer and yes, it is an art form ...Rock was the first genre(a genre I'm sure you love) to use the art form but Hip Hop made it popular ....you obviously don't understand how sampling works or it's history for that matter so I won't even bother arguing any further
Let's see you do this with a sample, doubt you can take a sample and flip it the way a Hip Hop producer can ....it's far from lazy and it takes a good ear to do it.
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Permalink Reply by Wounded Cyc△d on -
You are a fucking moron.
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Permalink Reply by Wounded Cyc△d on
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responding to SLAPJAW bro.
Sampling is the musical equivalent to collage or assemblage. Recontextualization of found sounds takes a lot of skill and is widely recognized as a valid musical strategy.
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