Overrated Movie Theater: The Dark Knight...

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Permalink Reply by C.H. Gorog on July 7, 2009 at 12:58pm

Really, cause I haven't seen anything here lately. Maybe I'm just too lazy to look around, though.

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Permalink Reply by Iron Man on July 7, 2009 at 1:07pm

This is gonna sound weird, but Gotham didn't feel like Gotham in TDK. It really did feel more like Gotham in the first film while in the second film it felt like a whole different place and looked different too.

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Permalink Reply by C.H. Gorog on July 8, 2009 at 7:04pm

I thought Nolan was just moving towards a more realistic rather than stylish Gotham. I did however miss the Narrows introduced in the first film along with some of the more Gothic architecture.

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Permalink Reply by Batman on July 9, 2009 at 8:11am

Yeah, in Batman Begins, Gotham city looked like a dump much of the time. It was much cleaner in Dark Knight.

Well, its a big sprawling metropolis, so we saw different parts of the city, locations that are not gritty. All big cities are probably like that...some parts nice looking and other places a dump.

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Permalink Reply by AcE! on July 9, 2009 at 9:03am

I hated Gotham in The Dark Knight myself. The Dark Knight is a good movie, but it has no fucking soul or atmosphere to it at all. That's almost a plus because for me, the movie had to rely purely on the storytelling itself because the visuals and action sequences were horrible.

I want a stylized Batman done correctly (NOT Burton). The stylized darkness of things like The Dark Knight Returns, Batman: TAS, and The Killing Joke are what make Batman great to me. It's a very surreal and nightmare-like experience every time I actually remember what the story I'm reading is about.

When you apply realism to Batman, it just feels watered down. Over half of his first tier villains and damn near everyone that isn't one is obliterated from possible use when you apply Nolan's perspective.

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Permalink Reply by Iron Man on July 9, 2009 at 9:08am

I liked the Gotham in Burton's Batman films. It was consistent for Batman and Batman Returns. But I loved the retro style of Gotham in Batman TAS. People should remember that Gotham City is like a main character in Batman.

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Permalink Reply by Daedalus Ciarán on July 11, 2009 at 4:58am

Batman in the comics is based on Victorian era London and New York (Read Charles Dickens' Bleak House and you'll see very quickly that Gotham owes a lot to London and Victorian writing. Hell there's even a comic called Gotham by Gaslight which is Batman in Victorian London). In the comics therefore there's a literary tradition which writers draw on to create Gotham and the Batman environment. This tradition does not exist in film.

In film crime dramas, or even just regular films where the city is a character, the city is always very modern. That's the Hollywood influence for you. So when filmmakers look to draw on film traditions of portrayals of cities they come to see that the cities are modern metropolises. Wall Street is a perfect example; it's dirty, rotten to the core (like Gotham) but the buildings are state of the art and completely glass. So that's what ended up being drawn on for The Dark Knight's Gotham. It's just as corrupt, just as hell bound, as the comic Gotham, but it doesn't draw on literary traditions, it draws on cinematic traditions.

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Permalink Reply by RENEGADE™ on July 7, 2009 at 6:42pm

ah what do I care about this movie,,,
Iron Man was still better LOL

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Permalink Reply by Sean Cole on July 9, 2009 at 5:15am

I think I'm the only person who didn't like Iron Man...

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Permalink Reply by Frosty on July 9, 2009 at 12:16pm

I didn't think it was that great either.

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Permalink Reply by Iron Man on July 9, 2009 at 2:10pm

Ok, this is racist!!

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Permalink Reply by C.H. Gorog on July 10, 2009 at 10:08pm

Well, it's his opinion. How is it racist?

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