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Obamacare?
After hearing the news about the vote on Obamacare today I wanted to know what my internet friends think of it since to be honest I don't know to much about it. People I talk to are either completely against it (my family) or are for it but can't really explain why.
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Permalink Reply by Lavender Uke on -
Because they have got to pay more?
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Permalink Reply by Amy Ledford on -
what
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Permalink Reply by Stephen Quentin Easton on -
It's a half arsed attempt to move America towards a national health insurance system like the ones every other developed nation in the world has. It was doomed from the start because too many Americans care more about their taxes than the common good. Same as the reason America has 13.5 million malnourished childrern at any one time. A shocking lack of social conscience.
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Permalink Reply by Kizmania on -
haha typical
The United states has the best health care system on the planet. If you can pay for it. All of those developed countries are broken, and so is their tax systems. Punishing the successful, and forcing morality on people by taking their money doesn't seem like a developed thought process to me.
Americans are the fattest people on the planet. If you starve in the US then you are an accident of evolution.
Americans are the most charitable people on the planet, and those stats are most likely fucked. Example, my 260 lb ass could be considered malnourished because I don't eat the right kinds of food.
Obamacare just like anything government run will suck. Not only that it is unamerican/ unconstitutional. The government has no right to mandate that I buy services from an industry that they control, or be forced to pay a penalty, or go to jail.
Obama fucked up big trying to make this his issue before the election. If Romney spins this the right direction then he is our next prez for sure.
The ignorant will claim that Romney supported national healthcare when he was a Governor, but state wide healthcare is different from national healthcare. Especially when you are from one with a lot of money, and not a lot of people.
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Permalink Reply by DoctorWitten on -
ah yes, oh so very broken to the point that they look at the american healthcare system with envy...oh wait, no they don't.
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Permalink Reply by Bert's Unibrow on
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Canadians come here all the time when they get sick of waiting for their government to give them the health care that they need. Wealthy people from similar countries fly here for the same reason. That's the only kind of "envy" that counts when you boil it down.
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Permalink Reply by Stephen Quentin Easton on
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One of the great benefits of a national healthcare system is that those who don't really need it go private and consequently reduce the cost for everyone else.
So I'm grateful to those flying out to America and reducing the cost of our NHS.
I can't envy anyone who doesn't consider food and basic healthcare as a human right. Economically, how is allowing people to starve and be sick helpful?
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Permalink Reply by Poyo on -
I think DoctorWitten is pretty on point but I thought I would add a couple of things.
According to the WHO (World Healthcare Organisation) America spends the most on healthcare, but only ranks 37th in the world rankings. Also other countries do have private healthcare as well, it's your right to choose which to use.
Obamacare was partly based on the plan in massachusetts. Mitt Romney said himself, the mandate in massachusetts was "essential in bringing healthcare costs down for everyone". Obamacare gets rid of the flaw in medicare advantage plans which are grossly overpaid, part of what pays for it, as well as a lot of really useful stuff for pretty much everyone.
Also saying it is unconstitutional is partly your opinion, I think I'm going to side with the supreme court on this one, not Rand Paul.
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Permalink Reply by Chig Champa on
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Permalink Reply by Poyo on
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America has some of the highest rates of income inequality, and some of the worst child wellbeing of a developed country according to the UNICEF index of child wellbeing.
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Oh, God. We've got a level five "carer" here, folks, who thinks he cares more about everyone else than everyone else does.
It was doomed from the start because too many Americans care more about their taxes than the common good
Imagine that, working people don't want to be slaves to a DMV-style bureaucracy that allocates our health care to us. We surely need you to determine "the common good" for all of us so that we can trade down from the highest quality health care the world has ever seen. If it feels good to you, we should have to do it!
Same as the reason America has 13.5 million malnourished childrern at any one time. A shocking lack of social conscience.
Seriously, what does that even mean? Other than to guilt trip your own countrymen into accepting something they don't want, with an unrelated and likely exaggerated statistic?
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