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Permalink Reply by Mo-Mo on April 23, 2012 at 5:27pm

Is North Korea even a threat anymore? They're like the "Mid-Boss" of crazy countries 

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Permalink Reply by Chig Champa on April 23, 2012 at 5:44pm

You're right. We really shouldn't take a rogue state with nothing to lose and possible nuclear capabilities seriously at all.
It's not like they just launched a ballistic missile less than two weeks ago or something...

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Permalink Reply by Mo-Mo on April 23, 2012 at 6:01pm

The missile was a total failure though

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Permalink Reply by Chig Champa on April 23, 2012 at 7:03pm

So what? One missile failing means they're all going to?
That's like pointing a loaded gun in someone's face and pulling the trigger, then making the excuse that since the primer on the bullet was a dud that you didn't do anything wrong.

North Korea has shown that it's ready and able to launch a ballistic missiles despite the entire world community telling them not to.
They've shown that they're willing to sacrifice the well-being of its citizenry in the form of international aid in order to flex their military muscle and make both veiled and open threats towards their neighbors to the south.
Its leaders display a willingness to let their people suffer and die for absolutely no reason or gain.

They have a history of military aggression including firing upon Yeonpyeong Island and sinking ships off its coast without provocation.
The North Korean leadership maintains that they are still at war with South Korea and the only thing stopping unification of the entire peninsula under their fascist rule is the fortified border manned by American and South Korean troops.
They've admitted to committing heinous atrocities including attempts at political assassination, airline bombing, and the kidnap and torture of South Korean and Japanese civilians for no other purpose than to spread terrorist fear.

I'm not advocating military actions be taken against them, but to laugh them off as some kind of "mid-level boss" is naive, asinine, and incredibly foolish.

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Permalink Reply by Ultimate Snyderman on April 23, 2012 at 5:35pm

North Korea vs X-men

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Permalink Reply by Chig Champa on April 23, 2012 at 5:39pm

"North Korea has done this threatened South Korea before and not done anything."

Yeah, you're right, except for that one thing.
It was a while back... what was it called again... oh right, the Korean War.

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Permalink Reply by Mo-Mo on April 23, 2012 at 6:02pm

Fine let me rephrase what I said North Korea is the "Mid-Boss" of Crazy countries unless they're backed by china again then were screwed.

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Permalink Reply by Chig Champa on April 23, 2012 at 6:51pm

They don't need China's backing to launch a nuclear missile at Japan or South Korea.

They know they can't win a war, but these current development seem to indicate that they don't care.

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Permalink Reply by MegaJabboy on April 24, 2012 at 12:26pm

Talking about after.

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Permalink Reply by TheLizardhead on April 23, 2012 at 9:15pm

oh boy......... that's not good.

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Permalink Reply by DoctorWitten on April 24, 2012 at 10:39am

According to wikileaks, China is actually ready to abandon North Korea.

A second dispatch from September last year described He downplaying the Chinese premier's trip to Pyongyang, telling the US deputy secretary of state, James Steinberg: "We may not like them ... [but] they [the DPRK] are a neighbour."

He said the premier, Wen Jiabao, would push for denuclearisation and a return to the six-party talks. The official also complained that North Korea "often tried to play China off [against] the United States, refusing to convey information about US-DPRK bilateral conversations".

Further evidence of China's increasing dismay with Pyongyang comes in a cable in June 2009 from the US ambassador to Kazakhstan, Richard Hoagland. He reported that his Chinese counterpart, Cheng Guoping. was "genuinely concerned by North Korea's recent nuclear missile tests. 'We need to solve this problem. It is very troublesome,' he said, calling Korea's nuclear activity a 'threat to the whole world's security'."

They wouldn't mind seeing Korea unified under a government in Seoul, But it doesn't want US troops to be stationed anywhere above the 38th parallel. it's highly opposed to military action but wouldn't intervene if the US/SK did roll over Pyongyang.  

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Permalink Reply by DoctorWitten on April 24, 2012 at 11:58am

I'm not too worried about the public displays of communist brotherly love, it's almost mandatory, like Obama and American politicians selling out showing support at the Israeli lobby. while behind closed doors they can be very critical of the government in Tel Aviv.

I am however somewhat worried about the possibility that these missiles are being provided by the Chinese. In all likelihood it was part of some deal concocted by kim jong ill and his son, in order to gain some political strength for the transition of power. North Korean transitions of power are risky, you need all the political backing you can muster and placate the generals with some saber rattling. 

In the long run i don't think the Chinese want a saber rattling embarrassment called North Korea, so i suspect the backdoor distrust of Pyongyang still persists in Beijing. The younger members of the especially communist party aren't too fond of NK. 

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