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North Carolina Passes Same-Sex Marriage Ban
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Permalink Reply by Jon, Gallifrey's Mindfreak on -
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Permalink Reply by Amy Ledford on -
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Permalink Reply by Sandlot Jones on -
I guess the separation of church and state means nothing to these people. I'm a christian, but I firmly believe in the saying, 'live, and let live'. As long as your lifestyle isn't harmful to others, do your own thing.
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Permalink Reply by Nightshadow on -
To quote Bob Dylan "The times they are a changin". North Carolina is going to have to join the 21 century someday, its inevitable.
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Permalink Reply by DarkProphet94 on -
I live in North Carolina; believe me, this place is a shithole of bigotry and intolerance. Hell, EVERY SINGLE CHURCH around me had a bulletin on their sign that said to vote for the fucking amendment. its a goddamn disgrace, especially since there are more important issues to worry about than whether TWO CONSENTING ADULTS IN LOVE want to get married. Aside from the UNC School of the Arts, North Carolina can go fuck itself
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Permalink Reply by Jimmy Bananers on -
Except for guilford and new hannover I think this is accurate.
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Permalink Reply by MDS on -
Ah, NC... the most schizoid state that I know of. Outside of certain areas of the state (Mostly the larger cities of Charlotte, Raleigh, and maybe Asheville... where most of the universities are located), the vast majority of the state is still under the influence of the "rural area" which is mostly controlled by the local churches. I mean, it's really NO SURPRISE that NC passed the ban so much as the fact that it was a seriously MISGUIDED amendment to begin with. Poorly written, VASTLY misunderstood and completely lopsided in it's approach.
Personally, I think that a "Marriage" is a Man/Woman and a "Union" is a Same-sex relationship. Words have meanings and it doesn't help to use one word as a "blanket definition". Prime example is the car. Sure, it's got 4 wheels and a motor.... but then why do we have Sedans, Coupes, Hatchbacks, Trucks, SUV's, and GT's? Well, it's because each of those words means a SPECIFIC TYPE of "car".... which is my point of words have meaning.
Now, having said the above. Let me point out that even I saw how poorly written and asinine this latest Amendment was. While not surprised that it passed, mostly surprised that everyone seems to want to point out how "backward" NC is... when in fact it's the 30th state to do something like this. So while maybe the "latest", it's NOT the only one. As far as people looking for a southern state to take a more "liberal social view"? Well, then you will have to either look to Virginia or Georgia to do so, because MOST of the southern states still take a "conservative social view" to things. It's the way that the southern states have always been. When it comes to "hot-button" social issues, you can almost always count on the southern states to take the reserved approach.
Besides, as a friend of mine pointed out on facebook..... Prohibition was once an amendment and it was eventually overturned. I expect the same thing to happen with today's vote in NC to happen as well, maybe 10-20 years down the road. But eventually the next generation will review the same topic and come up with a different result.
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Permalink Reply by Kizmania on -
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I was wondering why California wasn't labeled a backward bastion of Christian intolerance when we did the exact same thing? The Average American doesn't want marriage to change, and the voting has proven that. Is this not what representative democracy is all about?
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Permalink Reply by Chris on -
American democracy is not simply majority rule. That's why we have the Judicial branch and why the Californian Prop 8 has been declared unconstitutional by two federal courts (still in limbo) but I can understand and appreciate your reasoning behind it.
As for this:
"The Average American doesn't want marriage to change, and the voting has proven that. Is this not what representative democracy is all about?"
Polling throughout the last few years has shown a drastic increase in the level of support for gay marriage- to the point that polls show that there is either a draw between the two sides or that support for gay marriage eclipses opposition to it. But what is very clear is the trend. Also, as supporters tend be be younger and opponents tend to be older, this support seems likely to grow rather than diminsh. So, I agree with you that voters are entitled to vote for their positions on propositions and such, but I also hope you keep that same stance when, in the near future, the tables turn and the laws change to include gay marriage in many state, and most likely federal, laws.
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