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Permalink Reply by MDS on April 1, 2010 at 9:43am

Okay, let's forget everything else involved with this healthcare bill. I still have ONE simple question that hasn't been answered.

Where is it written in the Constitution (or anywhere else for that matter) that the Federal Government has the power to MANDATE that the private citizen (Meaning you and me) MUST PURCHASE a product?

Insurance is a PRODUCT. What other products has ever been required BY LAW to purchase? Yes, I know the argument that "Car Insurance" is a requirement... but ONLY IF YOU PURCHASE A CAR. There is no law saying that you MUST purchase a car to begin with. Plus, Car Insurance is nothing more than Basic Upkeep to OWNING a car. It's the same as purchasing gas to use the car, tires to keep the car on the road, washing the car to make it look nice, oil to make it run properly and headlights to make it safe to drive. All these are considered "expenses" to OWNING a car, but nothing has ever been passed saying that it's REQUIRED TO PURCHASE a car in the first place.

What's next? A law is passed saying that all citizens must purchase Coca-Cola or face a fine? That every citizen must purchase Duracell batteries? That you must purchase Fabreeze air fresheners? Once the Federal Government is allowed to mandate a product MUST be purchased it's only a matter of time before they extend that power to mandating OTHER products must be purchased as well. It might take 1 year or 100 years. But if they get the power once, they'll use it again somewhere down the road.

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Permalink Reply by Latter Day Heretic on April 1, 2010 at 10:10am

its more of a service, at least here in the uk, the only difference from insurance is if you do injure yourself, you don't pay anything out directly at that time or another for that service and are not charged more due to using the service.

i'm not saying that is the case there in the US but that's how it works here.

its tax, you don't get to chose you just have to pay. its not like buying a product the government are not saying you must spend x% of your wage on this, they just take it, and its probably just a few pennies more on what you pay already, its just when people hear xmillion dollars people think oh shit that's going to cost me bucks but in reality its like a fraction of a penny.

if you would only increase the tax rate n the top 1% of your country then it wouldn't be so expensive, but then again that would not be fair on the 1%, unlike the 13-17% that live below the poverty line.

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Permalink Reply by MDS on April 1, 2010 at 10:52am

Except that a "service" is still a "Product". Your insurance company offers you their "Product", which is the "service" of using their insurance options. You are still being required to MAKE A PURCHASE (by paying premiums) for something.

Also keep in mind that it's not just the "extra pennies" in taxes you are paying, but also the PREMIUMS as well. So, yes it's the "Extra pennies + Premiums (For a product) = Extra cost" situation that has me worried that the current plan is NOT THE BEST PLAN. As of right now, every American Citizen is facing an INCREASE in their "spending" with a DECREASE in their "check".

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Permalink Reply by MyWifeDave on April 2, 2010 at 8:15am

You people make me laugh so much.

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