GOSH DARNIT MC G or should I say MCBAY

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Permalink Reply by MDS on May 22, 2009 at 3:33am

Nope, I don't hate you for feeling that way. After the Charlie Angels movies, I sort of already knew McG would never be a "top class" director. He blows shit up--real good. But does he have the ability to actually get a good script and human characters--- not yet, and doubtful he will.

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Permalink Reply by Lab Rat on May 22, 2009 at 4:02am

Are people really going into this expecting some cerebral dissection of what it truly means to be human? Or maybe an insight into the psyche of a machine that knows only killing. Complaints about dialogue? Really? This isn’t Grapes of Wrath or Chinatown, people. If you feel that your intellect was insulted by the dialogue I think an urgent assessment of your level of intellect might be in order.
But the other films were deep and had meaning… That might be your fanciful interpretation as viewed through a hazy window into the past. Those previous Terminator movies were about kickass robots whose sole objective was to kill seasoned with a sprinkling of impending apocalypse. If you expect to get any more than that from the current franchise release, I have one thing to say…

“I DON'T know now why you cry.”

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Permalink Reply by Gary Motherfucking Oak on May 22, 2009 at 4:19am

HOW DARE YOU HAVE AN OPINION. RAWWWWRR.

But yeah, from the clips I have seen online, the dialogue does seem pretty weak, and the delivery doesn't look much better. Hopefully it will be entertaining, at the very least...

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Permalink Reply by Ge Spi on May 30, 2009 at 9:26pm

You got it right! There is some points I would like to add :
The humans get thrown around by machines and nothing happens to them like they are made of rubber. On the other hand the machines are so inefficient in killing people, it makes me think if we are talking about Terminators at all.
The initial idea for the Terminator from the first movies was that they are highly efficient killing machines with detailed knowledge of human anatomy, killing methods and extraordinary physical power, speed and accuracy. It was suggested on many occasions that if one gets into their grasp he/she is practically dead and the only way to survive is to (a)avoid them,(b) stay away from them and (c)set traps or (d)use extraordinary fire power. In T4 they look like weak morons when it comes to handling people.
Furthermore Conner was supposed to be some super strategic thinker that outsmarts the machines by being unpredictable and anticipating Skynet’s moves. His generals were supposed to be young geniuses/ computer geeks etc. (see T3) because the militaries are all extinct. The hints from the previous movies are that humans are almost extinct and the remaining few are organised in a very complicated guerrilla war/underground fight against Skynet. It was suggested that humans live underground in secret bunkers and resurface only to attack the machines or to obtain some resources. It was shown that if one terminator gets to one of these bunkers he could singlehandedly kill everyone there. That is how much power they have.
Instead Conner in T4 is a simple soldier with some creasy status of a profit and the Terminators fight like grandmas and the human are commanded by militaries and have helicopters and submarines.
What happen to all the radiation from the nuclear explosions (The Judgement day).That was one of the main reasons why handful of miraculously survived humans live underground and rarely go to the surface.
And what about the certain "nuclear winter" after the "Judgement day"? There was nothing of a kind in the movie despite the fact that it is certain it will happen if mass nuclear attack ever happens on earth.
The Marcus character was absolutely unnecessary. Skynet does not know who Connor’s father is. That was a blunder on behalf of the writers which now is too late to correct.

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