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Permalink Reply by Proto on August 3, 2012 at 1:19pm

I don't really care what a CEO thinks or what his philosophy is, until he donates large quantities of cash on his establishments behalf to try and change the establishment. 

As a consumer, if I wish to oppose this, then boycott is about the most effective tool I can respond with.

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Permalink Reply by Einrick Quiznos on August 3, 2012 at 1:22pm

   I think it's more because he supports and gives money to groups that deter gay rights, and is an outspoken Christian conservative. People understand that we each have the right to our own opinions, and don't have to follow any one elses. The problem is this type of thinking deters progress for quality of life and living, especially among CEO's who don't necessarily need to be bothered what 2 individuals do with each other with mutual consent, but has to, because his silly holy book tells him otherwise.

ie, people are tired of letting other people get away with ignorance...Personally, I haven't eaten at Chick-Fil-A's in years, and don't plan to go back; not because of the controversy, but because I just didn't like their food as much. I prefer my own cooking most of the time....

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Permalink Reply by Clearsky38 on August 4, 2012 at 1:57am

I love your toasted subs btw

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Permalink Reply by Ultimate Snyderman on August 3, 2012 at 1:31pm

I hate their stance on gay marriage, but will still eat their food if necessary or just in the mood.

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Permalink Reply by Dominick on August 3, 2012 at 1:37pm

I hate them because of their anti-gay thing, AND THEY COOK THE FOOD IN FUCKING PEANUT OIL!!!

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Permalink Reply by Dominick on August 3, 2012 at 1:49pm

Jon Stewart has said the truth!

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Permalink Reply by Ultimate Snyderman on August 3, 2012 at 6:42pm

AMEN

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Permalink Reply by Proto on August 3, 2012 at 2:42pm

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Permalink Reply by DHood90 on August 3, 2012 at 6:24pm

I honestly don't see the point and it's related to something MDS brought up: private companies do these things all the time, Chick Fil-A is not the exception here. For example, Coca-Cola, Walmart, Microsoft, Verizon, Disney, and hell, even fucking KFC (which I love) donates to political candidates/PACs that I hate and/or disagree heavily with. Seriously, if you go to www.opensecrets.org and look at where this money from these private industries go to, you don't ever want to buy a commercial product ever again in your life if you base your purchases solely on the political views and contributions of a company.

With that said, I just don't see the practical point. People can be all huffy and puffy about symbolic shit all they want to, I really don't give a damn, but if they are serious about being active on political issues, boycotting Chick Fil-A won't do it. This is one company out of how many ones in the fast food industry alone? Essentially the only lesson CEOs probably got out of this whole blow up is to keep their mouths shut publicly on political matters. It doesn't change the fact that private money goes to anti-gay groups, it doesn't change the fact that there is a large political group in the United States that opposes legal recongnition of gay marriage, and it doesn't advance some legislative momentum in Congress/States/Local government.

The Montgomery Bus Boycott was brought up as an example of where boycotts worked and I think people tend to forget that they did it differently there than this Chick Fil-A thing here. They actually got into the ear pieces of government officials to do something about it on a legislative level, they started talking to the local community discussing the issue of bus segregation, and provided a mobilized alternative for the bus system like walking, carpooling, taxis, etc, denying money going to National City Lines (which owned the Montgomery buses). They didn't just stand outside the NCL office/stations, shake signs, they actually went out and started a grassroot movement that got the whole community and even the country involved. It was enough of a case where the court system got involved all the way to where the Supreme Court ruled that this stuff would end.

In this, what's the goal? To stop them from donating to anti-gay organizations? 1, you'd need to target every business organization that does this, not just Chick Fil-A because right now the focus is too narrowed where it's not causing a major shift through the fast-food industry like what the bus segregation did in Montgomery because that boycott was also done at every other bus transit company that practiced bus segregation, not just that one branch.

2, you'd need to advocate legislation that would prohibit companies from donating money to anti-gay or any discriminatory organizations because as I said before, Chick Fil-A is not the only company doing this crap; if Chick Fil-A is gone, then another company replaces them in giving funding to these groups. Of course, that brings up a big question of whether you want the government to really dictate the spending habits of the private sector.

3., you'd also need to be amping up the pressure on a political to get gay marriage recognized by signing petitions and getting those kind of laws passed in your local/state legislatures by voting and volunteering. It kind of amazed me that some of these bitch about the Chick Fil-A thing and that I personally know are the people that don't vote or participate in any political stuff. I'm not saying that's everybody who opposes this, but it's a disturbing trend I'm seeing.

So what was the point of this post? Me personally, I sympathize with the folks who are pissed about this. I am a registered Republican, but I am pissed that people like this send profits to these groups that deny them recognized marriage or even civil unions. I vote against the jackasses that preach publicly against gay marriage and send some funds to LGBT groups when I can. However, on a practical level, I don't think the way these boycotters are "protesting" now will actually do anything. They need to reevaluate how they are protesting, they need to refocus, and keep a sense of practicality on how they're doing it. Doing it this way isn't going to do what they think will do.

Mind you, this is just my opinion and analysis of the situation, I'm not saying this is actually how it is or that this is the truth.

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Permalink Reply by Dirac on August 3, 2012 at 7:03pm

I agree that boycotting Chick-Fil-A won't change anything, and I don't expect there to be government legislation dictating what private entities do with their monetary resources.  In fact, I vehemently oppose the mayors saying the restaurant is "not welcome" in their respective cities.  I simply would rather not support anti-gay political movements, intentionally or unintentionally, if I can help it.  No bold statement, no demand for the company to change its moral priorities, just my personal preference.

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Permalink Reply by NerdyHeartbeat on August 3, 2012 at 7:20pm

It's not so much Chick-Fil-A's opinion that bothers me. But the fact that so many fucking people out there are supporting them solely because of their stance towards "real marriage". This whole debacle reminded me how batshit ignorant people here are sometimes.

People are even saying that people being anti-Chick-Fil-A is proof how Christians are the most prosecuted group of people ever.

...I'm depressed.

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Permalink Reply by NerdyHeartbeat on August 3, 2012 at 7:17pm

I'm from Long Island so I didn't even know what a Chick-Fil-A was until a month ago... I'm a Boston Market man till I die fools.

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