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Boxing VS MMA: A Faux Rilvary Poplurized By Fanboys
Note: An updated version of a blog I've written at a boxing site
I consider myself as someone who tries to be objective as I possibly can, and since I was labeled a Boxing nuthugger on an MMA forum and an MMA nuthugger on a Boxing forum, then I've pretty much succeeded in that. This also proves that fanboys of both sports share a similar level of ignorance and blind loyalty towards their sports and blind hate towards the other.
All this began ever since the first UFC, when the UFC as part of their promoting strategy took shots at the sport of "Sweet Science" and then years later Dana White opened his big egotistic mouth, not to the mention all the BS spat out by MMA fanboys claiming Boxing is "dying" while also refusing to admit that the lack of Boxing fundamentals is one of MMA's weakest points. But Boxing promoters and fanboys are no better, MMA has been labeled as a human cockfight (weird since even in the early years, UFC prohibited illegal moves like eye gouges.) and even labeling MMA fighters as bums, street thugs or whatever the hell they want to call them.
The only sort of realistic existance of a feud between MMA and Boxing is PPV buyrate/TV rate wise but that's about it, there's no way you can pit a boxer against a grappler and call it MMA vs Boxing since it's basically an MMA fight and or have them fight in a boxing rules fight and call it an MMA vs Boxing fight since it's basically a Boxing fight, the same thing applies when you put a grappler against a kickboxer. MMA stands for Mixed Martial Arts, and Boxing is a martial art. To compare both is just stupid. So in reality, if you take away the PPV buyrate argument, the whole rilvary is really just a faux one created by the blind loyalists of both combat sports.
It's not as if all MMA fighters are elitist jerks to Boxers, Quinton Jackson is a boxing fan, Vera looks up to Pacquiao, Diego Sanchez chose to train conditioning with De La Hoya, Gomi said he wouldn't last against DLH in a boxing match, Frank Shamrock said on Inside MMA he only watches boxing and does not watch MMA outside of what he broadcasts. He goes on to mention how superior boxers standup is and that there is only one, possibly two MMA fighters in the world that have strong boxing skills. Boxing stars sang praises for MMA as well, such as Ray Jones Jr, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Suger Ray Leonard and even Mayweather Jr after that whole issue of him bashing the sport years ago. Howard Davis Jr. trains MMA now. He's also helping MMA fighters with their Boxing over at American Top Team. He has a great deal of respect for the sport.
It's not so hard to like the best from both worlds, people. I've been a boxing fan longer but I also appreciate MMA and think it's a good combat sport. I'm definetly sure that old school boxing legends like Jack Dempsy would've showed better appreciation for MMA.
I consider myself as someone who tries to be objective as I possibly can, and since I was labeled a Boxing nuthugger on an MMA forum and an MMA nuthugger on a Boxing forum, then I've pretty much succeeded in that. This also proves that fanboys of both sports share a similar level of ignorance and blind loyalty towards their sports and blind hate towards the other.
All this began ever since the first UFC, when the UFC as part of their promoting strategy took shots at the sport of "Sweet Science" and then years later Dana White opened his big egotistic mouth, not to the mention all the BS spat out by MMA fanboys claiming Boxing is "dying" while also refusing to admit that the lack of Boxing fundamentals is one of MMA's weakest points. But Boxing promoters and fanboys are no better, MMA has been labeled as a human cockfight (weird since even in the early years, UFC prohibited illegal moves like eye gouges.) and even labeling MMA fighters as bums, street thugs or whatever the hell they want to call them.
The only sort of realistic existance of a feud between MMA and Boxing is PPV buyrate/TV rate wise but that's about it, there's no way you can pit a boxer against a grappler and call it MMA vs Boxing since it's basically an MMA fight and or have them fight in a boxing rules fight and call it an MMA vs Boxing fight since it's basically a Boxing fight, the same thing applies when you put a grappler against a kickboxer. MMA stands for Mixed Martial Arts, and Boxing is a martial art. To compare both is just stupid. So in reality, if you take away the PPV buyrate argument, the whole rilvary is really just a faux one created by the blind loyalists of both combat sports.
It's not as if all MMA fighters are elitist jerks to Boxers, Quinton Jackson is a boxing fan, Vera looks up to Pacquiao, Diego Sanchez chose to train conditioning with De La Hoya, Gomi said he wouldn't last against DLH in a boxing match, Frank Shamrock said on Inside MMA he only watches boxing and does not watch MMA outside of what he broadcasts. He goes on to mention how superior boxers standup is and that there is only one, possibly two MMA fighters in the world that have strong boxing skills. Boxing stars sang praises for MMA as well, such as Ray Jones Jr, George Foreman, De La Hoya, Manny Pacquiao, Suger Ray Leonard and even Mayweather Jr after that whole issue of him bashing the sport years ago. Howard Davis Jr. trains MMA now. He's also helping MMA fighters with their Boxing over at American Top Team. He has a great deal of respect for the sport.
It's not so hard to like the best from both worlds, people. I've been a boxing fan longer but I also appreciate MMA and think it's a good combat sport. I'm definetly sure that old school boxing legends like Jack Dempsy would've showed better appreciation for MMA.
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Permalink Reply by Lab Rat on -
Just out of curiosity and a bit off subject...have you ever been in a fight?
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Permalink Reply by B.Bally on -
A combat sport fight? No, I've got into a few fights with some bullies but only in self defense.What does that got to do with my post, might I ask?
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Permalink Reply by Lab Rat on
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Nothing to do with your post, and I apologise for heading in a different direction. Your post just got me thinking.
I'm what you'd call a street fighter and pub brawler from way back. To be honest, being in my late thirties kinda puts me past my use-by date. The reason I asked if you'd been in a fight was i wondered if people who fight watch these UFC and MMA presentations do so because they have pent up aggression. I just don't see the attraction when compared to a real confrontation. I'm not trying to make jokes or belittle here. Honestly. I was just wondering.
By the way I've never really watched boxing or wrestling either.
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Permalink Reply by B.Bally on
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No problem, when I said I got into some fights, this was just self defense to a bunch high school bullies who were being tough guy wannabes so they weren't exactly fights.
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Permalink Reply by Lab Rat on
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So what's the attraction to seeing other men get into a physical confrontation, even though that confrontation may only be on pay-per view at a pub?
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Permalink Reply by B.Bally on
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Well, Boxing for example is just hand striking with beautiful footwork and strategy to beat an opponent
MMA, originally it's a fight between fighters of different martial art styles also unlike street fights there are rules that disallow illegal moves.
I certainly didn't become a combat sports fan for blood and violence unlike some like UFC fanboys.
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Permalink Reply by Airkill on -
BBally, your post was good, and WE (mma fighters) agree with you, I don't speak for all of us but I know enough that share your point of view
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Permalink Reply by Airkill on
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Dude!...really? I don't think you even been in a fight, more like you where either a bully or the all mouth type, ‘cause if you did you would know what you were talking about and it's clear that you don't, I know a lot of fighters in their late 30s, so don't use that as an excuse if you don't have the guts to do it, oh and on your “pent up aggression. I just don't see the attraction when compared to a real confrontation”??? now you’re just asking for it, for a “brawler” to say a sport fighter as pent up aggression…I thought what to put but it’s just plain stupid and to say a bar fight is a real confrontation? Man out of respect I’m not even going to go there, what’s real about picking fights with drunken out of shape no training bunch of morons, I’ve been in you’re real scenarios and let me tell you that’s what wuzzie wanna-be’s do to feel big about themselves, that’s as much challenging as slapping a blind kid, and fyi, us fighters do appreciate any real challenge, either MMA, Boxing or whatever, and have the most upright respect for any true combatant, which in your case you are not, so please post where you even might have the smallest clue on the topic and or keep your fictional glory days to yourself, want a real challenge and to understand why? Then man up and get on a ring or octagon with a real prepared fighter, if not your just an idiot, and your age is not the problem to getting your ass kicked.
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