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Permalink Reply by Arsène Lupin the Third on February 23, 2012 at 12:11am

That wasn't clear but now it is however usually there's games with story add ons you need to do resarch like lords of shadow had story based dlc. but it was more fill in something that wasn't needed but filled in part of a blank.

Permalink Reply by Randy Flagg on February 22, 2012 at 4:54pm

This is not a new thing. Not in the slightest. To suddenly act like it's a grave violation of the relationship is absurd.

If the last DLC characters are any indication, this character isn't going to be an integral part of the story. Zaeed was not a fully-fleshed out character, nor was Kasumi. Just to balance the scales of downloadable content to actual in-game content, I would assume this will be the same deal.

It's been said a thousand times and it'll be said a thousand times more: If you don't like it, do not buy the content. That's it. Just don't buy it. Show your anger by saving your money.

Entitlement is hilarious.

Permalink Reply by Arsène Lupin the Third on February 22, 2012 at 4:57pm

yeah brits entitlement factor was off the charts

Permalink Reply by Chris on February 22, 2012 at 10:56pm

This is very, very simple.

The developer is selling a product for what they believe it is worth. If you do not like it, you do not have to buy it. You are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to this product.

Permalink Reply by Lab Rat on February 23, 2012 at 12:18am

Amen, brother!

Permalink Reply by Guy LaDouche's Intern on February 23, 2012 at 8:09pm

I'm not bothered by it more than likely curiousity will kick my ass and I'll end up getting it. I am part of the group where if I can't dry-hump it on the couch then make the damn thing my secretary or something since my ME2 secretary didnt survive.

As a prothean being a squadmate I can buy it. As for how the only thing I can speculate is that he was a prothean who escape being fully transformed in a collector since that what the collectors were anyways...protheans.  So actually I would be expecting to a scene where I'm in a battle with some husk or geth with the prothean and then I hear behind me "Assuming Direct Control!" and the prothean starts turning Super Saiyan.

Permalink Reply by George Knight on February 24, 2012 at 11:22am

For those trying to defend this DLC in this thread, even if it doesn't play HEAVILY into the story of the game it's still taking away resources, money, and time that should and very well could have been used for the making the overall game better. We've known about this charater since last summer's leak, so it's not like something they've threw in at last second at the end of the development cycle to make a quick buck. His voicework is even in the demo for christ's sake. This is content that SHOULD be in the game and was probably a part of the main story at some point in development, but was purposely cut to squeeze more money from the consumers.

Permalink Reply by Cthulhu R'lyeh on February 24, 2012 at 11:33am

I would prefer an increased retail price over shitty DLC. At least then the consumer gets the complete package when he exits the fucking shop.

Permalink Reply by Chris on February 24, 2012 at 12:05pm

Yes, it's content they have been planning for awhile. It's also content that Bioware has stated they really worked on only after the game was sent off for finalization. If you don't want to believe them, that's your right.

Casey Hudson's tweets:

"It takes about 3 months from "content complete" to bug-fix, certify, manufacture, and ship game discs. In that time we work on DLC."

"DLC has fast cert and no mfg., so if a team works very hard, they can get a DLC done in time to enjoy it with your 1st playthrough on day 1."

And it SHOULD be included in the game? Where in the rules of running a company does it say that? Where in the contract you signed as a gamer to the game company does it state that you are entitled to this product? It's this SHOULD that I see pop up everywhere minus, you know, any rational explanation to back up that claim. This is simply a matter of the creator of a product being able to sell that product for whatever the company feels it is worth and having the market decide if that price is correct.

And purposefully cut to squeeze more money? Any evidence of that or is this just pure speculation? I'm all ears.

Permalink Reply by Cthulhu R'lyeh on February 24, 2012 at 12:15pm

"And purposefully cut to squeeze more money? Any evidence of that or is this just pure speculation? I'm all ears."

How about the fact that he was in the leaked script?

Permalink Reply by Chris on February 24, 2012 at 12:22pm

Again, initial stages of planning is not even close to finalized content. But even if they did cut him from the game to make him a paid DLC, that is still their right as a company and this argument is just a red herring. Sure, make the case that it's unethical but don't sit there and say that gamers deserve that content. This isn't just a defense of Bioware though, this is a defense of one of the basic tenets of capitalism: that companies have the right to sell their product for whatever price they see fit.

Permalink Reply by Cthulhu R'lyeh on February 24, 2012 at 12:37pm

I dont care how much they charge for it. What bothers me is that are dumping out an incomplete product. Price it at 90 dollars for all I care, just give me all the content that I need to fully understand the story. And do not give me that bull that a Prothean squad member is not important to the story.

Remember when you were able to play the full game immediately after buying it from a shop? That was neat.

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